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    Re: CIA Admits Role In U.S. Consolute Attack In Benghazi

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    The US consulate in Benghazi that came under attack by militants on September 11 was mainly a secret CIA operation, shedding new light on the deadly assault.

    The Wall Street Journal said the consulate was being used as a CIA operation, adding that of the 30 American officials evacuated from Benghazi following the assault, just seven worked for the State Department.

    It also identified the two security contractors killed in the attack – former Navy SEALs Tyrone Woods and Glen Doherty – as working for the Central Intelligence Agency and not the State Department.

    In a break from tradition, it said CIA Director David Petraeus did not attend the ceremony when the coffins arrived back on American soil in order to conceal the CIA operation in eastern Libya.

    CIA confirms role in US consulate attack in Benghazi - Telegraph


    Here is another source aswell:CIA admits role in US consulate attack in Benghazi | Mail Online
    So, Glenn Beck's source got it right.
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    Re: CIA Admits Role In U.S. Consolute Attack In Benghazi

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    I accept he would take repsonsibility for it which I thought he did in the debate but what im asking is was he actually responisble for it? Did that order land on his lap?
    He should have been given a sit-rep and had some general knowledge of the situation on the ground. That fact that he had know clue is troubling.
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    Re: CIA Admits Role In U.S. Consolute Attack In Benghazi

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    He should have been given a sit-rep and had some general knowledge of the situation on the ground. That fact that he had know clue is troubling.
    but would you say thats all Obamas fault?
    ‘This is not peace, it is an armistice for 20 years.’ (Ferdinand Foch. After the Treaty of Versailles, 1919).

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    Re: CIA Admits Role In U.S. Consolute Attack In Benghazi

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    but would you say thats all Obamas fault?
    Yes, it is. Just like a battalion commander how doesn't have any control over his company commanders.

    How does the saying go? "A leader is responsible for the conduct of the men under his command". I'm sure you're familiar with that.
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    Re: CIA Admits Role In U.S. Consolute Attack In Benghazi

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Yes, it is. Just like a battalion commander how doesn't have any control over his company commanders.

    How does the saying go? "A leader is responsible for the conduct of the men under his command". I'm sure you're familiar with that.
    On the same token do you hold a member of the Joint Chiefs responsible when a soldier commits an offense or some transgression?

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    Re: CIA Admits Role In U.S. Consolute Attack In Benghazi

    Quote Originally Posted by Sherman123 View Post
    On the same token do you hold a member of the Joint Chiefs responsible when a soldier commits an offense or some transgression?
    If that soldier is under his direct command, as the state department is under Obama's direct control, sure.

    See how "command responsibility" works?
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    Re: CIA Admits Role In U.S. Consolute Attack In Benghazi

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Yes, it is. Just like a battalion commander how doesn't have any control over his company commanders.

    How does the saying go? "A leader is responsible for the conduct of the men under his command". I'm sure you're familiar with that.
    Sure, but typically the responsibility levied is somewhat proportional to the degree of separation. I would hold a battalion commander more responsible for the behavior of his company commanders than I would for the behavior of a squad leader in one of those companies. And that battalion commander would bear more responsibility for the behavior of that squad leader than would the brigade commander.

    POTUS is in charge of millions of employees, both civilian and military. Every day, hell, perhaps every hour, at least one of them is breaking the law or committing some other grievous offense. We have to use some common sense in apportioning blame to those in the chain of command.

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    Re: CIA Admits Role In U.S. Consolute Attack In Benghazi

    Quote Originally Posted by Sarcogito View Post
    Sure, but typically the responsibility levied is somewhat proportional to the degree of separation. I would hold a battalion commander more responsible for the behavior of his company commanders than I would for the behavior of a squad leader in one of those companies. And that battalion commander would bear more responsibility for the behavior of that squad leader than would the brigade commander.

    POTUS is in charge of millions of employees, both civilian and military. Every day, hell, perhaps every hour, at least one of them is breaking the law or committing some other grievous offense. We have to use some common sense in apportioning blame to those in the chain of command.
    And, as I pointed out, the state department is under his direct control. Biden has already admitted that Obama didn't have a clue about what was going on. Big problem, there.
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    Re: CIA Admits Role In U.S. Consolute Attack In Benghazi

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    If that soldier is under his direct command, as the state department is under Obama's direct control, sure.

    See how "command responsibility" works?
    That's like saying the POTUS is responsible for that soldier because the Department of Defense is under his direct control. While not as big as DoD, State is also a huge bureaucracy.

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    Re: CIA Admits Role In U.S. Consolute Attack In Benghazi

    Quote Originally Posted by Sarcogito View Post
    That's like saying the POTUS is responsible for that soldier because the Department of Defense is under his direct control. While not as big as DoD, State is also a huge bureaucracy.
    Is Obama responsible for ANYTHING? Hear the bots tell it, nothing is his fault.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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