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U.S. Offers New Details Of Deadly Libya Attack

Good Lord, this administration is run like the mob. These details are disgusting.

Hillary and Obama actually blamed this on an obscure video that no one had seen until they mentioned it?

Criminal.
 
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>" Members of the United States armed forces are exposed to CS during initial training, and during training refresher courses or equipment maintenance exercises, using CS tablets that are melted on a hotplate. This is to demonstrate the importance of properly wearing a gas or protective mask, as the agent's presence quickly reveals an improper fit or seal of the mask's rubber gaskets against the face. Following exposure while wearing a mask, recruits are ordered to remove the masks and endure exposure in the room for one minute. These exercises also encourage confidence in the ability of the equipment to protect the wearer from such chemical attacks. Such an event is a requirement for graduation from United States Army Basic Training, Air Force Basic Military Training, Navy Basic Training, and Marine Corps recruit training.[62] CS gas in the form of grenades is also used extensively in the United States Marine Corps in some service schools. CS gas is used during the final field exercise of the Scout Sniper Basic Course to simulate being compromised. In addition, it is used during the 25 km (16 mi) escape-and-evasion exercise ("Trail of Tears"), the last event before graduation from the course. It is also used during several events in the Marine Corps Basic Reconnaissance Course (BRC) including some rucksack runs and escape-and-evasion exercises. While students going through the course are given the opportunity to bring and wear a gas mask for the event, usually none are worn because once donned, gas masks could not be removed until the end of the exercise. This could last anywhere from 3–12 hours and would make running 25 km while wearing 125 lb (57 kg) of gear virtually impossible.

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CS gas - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I bow to your expertise. Apparently my link is incorrect. I Googled around, and I'm comfortable with that. Good job.
 
Good Lord, this administration is run like the mob. These details are disgusting.

Hillary and Obama actually blamed this on an obscure video that no one had seen until they mentioned it?

Criminal.


Yep, they needed that video to start new riots, they needed more violence in other Countries to strengthen their Narrative. And the more people dead or injured, the more riots that they and their complicit media could cause, the stronger their lie was.....supposedly.
 
Don't care

I can see that, but the men and woman in arms way care a lot about our country having their back. They care for their lives, and in this case we left our own men die without even making an attempt to help them, before, during, and after. Then to make matters worse the Obama administration lied to the American people to get reelected. Obama is a lie.

Yeah, I know you don't care.
 
Is the Fox News still making hay about this?

Sounds like a CONSPIRACY THEORY to me.


It's only a " conspiracy" to those who don't possess the character and integrity to criticize a criminal and a liar. You people elected these low life's, You subjected the rest of us to a thug incompetent who chooses political convenience over the lives of 4 Americans.

And now, when it's obvious that you people screwed the rest of us, you either run away, or come in here and offer up nonsense and diversions.
 
You can have as many visions as you like, but Rice's statements did not stop the FBI from doing anything

Try again.....due to Rice's Statements and the trouble it caused with the Libyans. It held up the FBI investigating inside Libya. Which that was brought out today by Hicks.

No matter how much the Left deflects and denies.....doesn't change reality.
 
Then why are you posting in this thread ?

Just understand that millions of Americans DO care and don't like being lied to by their President.

Well like with all the others.....that's all they got. They don't care and BFD. That's cuz they can't hang with the facts and reality!
 
This sums up a lot about you and American leftist in general that put their personal hand outs ahead of other peoples lives.

Well that, and that they are woefully lacking with MOST Anything involves Benghazi. It has to actually do with not being able to measure up.
 
The American people, as a whole, do not care about whether or not Banghazi was the result of a spontaneous protest, or a planned attack by a terrorist group

That's because half of them didn't understand the Country was hit on the Anniversary of 911. Which IMO comes about thru false information that was put out by Team Obama from the beginning. Which there is no getting around that fact. No matter how much those on the Left Deny it.....or ignore it. :lol:
 
Benghazi attack : The Two-Way : NPR

According to this, they tried sending in troops, but there were no troops close enough to get there in time.

also:

Is not using the super secret CIA time machine an impeachable offense?

(Normally, I don't like using NPR as a source here because it will be attacked. However, since the Daily Caller and WND are being used by the right these days....)


This is all utter nonsense. How did they know how much time they had before it was all over? That second group should have been given the fly orders even if it was assumed the consulate was already over run.

The argument that they did nothing because they had no forces in the area is weak pablum for their supporters to consume. They should have had a full detail of security on site prior to the attacks anyway given that there had already been 1 attack on the consulate that blew a 12 foot hole in the wall.... but even ignoring that, there were TWO attacks on the consulate that covering a total of 7 hours. A full compliment of security forces should have at least been on route by the time the SECOND ATTACK began 5 hours later.

None of this was done. The ONLY forces to arrive on the scene to assist were the guys that chartered their own aircraft to get there (they got there before the second attack!), and they died on the rooftop defending the consulate while the administration did jack sh*t.

Even a supporting aircraft from Italy could have been on scene in a matter of hours. And don't give me the bulls**t about Libya not giving authorization, because the President didn't think that was necessary when ordering the raid on the bin Laden compound... but his Ambassador is in danger and suddenly his hands are tied? Bull sh**t.

Moreover, this reportedly top secret site (the libs were quick to blast the Republicans for mentioning it was a CIA data site) wasn't secured for 18 days after the attack. It is a criminally negligent clusterboink that was in slow motion fail from the moment that first attach blew a hole in the wall a month earlier to the point when the second attack started and and the President president still couldn't be arsed to get off his f**king ass.
 
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This is all utter nonsense. How did they know how much time they had before it was all over? That second group should have been given the fly orders even if it was assumed the consulate was already over run.

The argument that they did nothing because they had no forces in the area is weak pablum for their supporters to consume. They should have had a full detail of security on site prior to the attacks anyway given that there had already been 1 attack on the consulate that blew a 12 foot hole in the wall.... but even ignoring that, there were TWO attacks on the consulate that covering a total of 7 hours. A full compliment of security forces should have at least been on route by the time the SECOND ATTACK began 5 hours later.

None of this was done. The ONLY forces to arrive on the scene to assist were the guys that chartered their own aircraft to get there (they got there before the second attack!), and they died on the rooftop defending the consulate while the administration did jack sh*t.

Moreover, this reportedly top secret site (the libs were quick to blast the Republicans for mentioning it was a CIA data site) wasn't secured for 18 days after the attack. It is a criminally negligent clusterboink that was in slow motion fail from the moment that first attach blew a hole in the wall a month earlier to the point when the second attack started and and the President president still couldn't be arsed to get off his f**king ass.

Most of these details have come out since I posted this 6 months ago.
 
There was nothing new revealed during yesterday's hearings.

Yea, wev'e always known Obama and Hillary were scum of the earth and would easily trade American lives for political expediency.

The Cons here have kown since day one it was a lie.

The Libs ? Well they have chosen the path of " denial and diversion" as they're faced with the obvious. It's such a low life thing to do, to apologize for these POS politicians and to offer up diversions.

While those Americans died, Obama " went to bed" and Hillary called the SCEOND IN COMMAND AT 2 AM, and din't ask him about a " Protest", didn't care.

Go ahead, keep thinking this is over, because yesterdays testimony proved you were lied to and Obama and Hillary had so little Compassion for those there, they concocted a huge lie, and told any security available to stand down.
 
Most of these details have come out since I posted this 6 months ago.


Those details were available before the NPR article you posted 6 months ago. They played out in real time in September had you been paying attention.
 
Yea, wev'e always known Obama and Hillary were scum of the earth and would easily trade American lives for political expediency.

The Cons here have kown since day one it was a lie.

The Libs ? Well they have chosen the path of " denial and diversion" as they're faced with the obvious. It's such a low life thing to do, to apologize for these POS politicians and to offer up diversions.

While those Americans died, Obama " went to bed" and Hillary called the SCEOND IN COMMAND AT 2 AM, and din't ask him about a " Protest", didn't care.

Go ahead, keep thinking this is over, because yesterdays testimony proved you were lied to and Obama and Hillary had so little Compassion for those there, they concocted a huge lie, and told any security available to stand down.

Nothing new was revealed at the hearings. No evidence of conspiracy, no proof of cover up.

Nothing has changed.
 
Looks like Issa's kangaroo court has fizzled. Kind of like his Fast and Furious "investigation".

Poor conservatives, their lies just don't take anymore.
 
Looks like Issa's kangaroo court has fizzled. Kind of like his Fast and Furious "investigation".

Poor conservatives, their lies just don't take anymore.

Awww you must have missed that part where the Democrats are calling for more hearings. Now what are you and the rest of the Obamabots going to do. Looks Like it's not just the Repubs calling for hearings anymore. Whatever excuse will you have now. :lamo

Missed that News Coverage did ya? Not surprising.....a day late and as usual. A Dollar short. :lol:
 
Nothing new was revealed at the hearings. No evidence of conspiracy,no proof of cover up.

Nothing has changed.

Keep repeating that lie. Keep defendind these POS politicians Obama and Hillary.

We know there was a cover-up, as the State Dept E-mails were changed to reflect a protest that never was.

They were told to stand down TWICE as people like you state there " wouldn't have been enough time" or that they were not armed , AFTER a 12 foot hole was blown in their wall in June.

It's really disgusting, your'e willing to sell out and tell the Families to Fu** Off, because your more interested in saving your corrupt presidents ass than finding out who's responsible.

it just goes to show how corrupt the left wing ideology is.
 
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Nothing new was revealed at the hearings. No evidence of conspiracy, no proof of cover up.

Nothing has changed.


The Obama administration spending two weeks, six weeks before the Presidential elections blaming the murder of four Americans on a You Tube video when the White House knew on the morning of 9-12-12 that the attack on the American consulate was a well planned and organized attack by Al Qaeda militia was just not a cover up but the administration was lying to the American people for Obama's own political gain.

Your right about one thing, nothing has changed in the Obama administration. Obama continues to surround himself with liars, incompetent people and the entire Executive Cabinet Secretaries are second rate.
 
There was nothing new revealed during yesterday's hearings.

Looks like you were mistaken. ;)

The Damning Dozen: Twelve Revelations from the Benghazi Hearings

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Much of the media and liberal establishment simply ignored yesterday's Benghazi hearings. They were content to see, hear, and speak no evil -- which is typically the fastest way to kill a story in Washington. Others framed the proceedings as just another quixotic, partisan effort to hype a long-resolved story. Selling that template requires adherence to two fallacious assertions: First, that no major questions remain regarding the 9/11 terrorist assault on our consulate in Benghazi, Libya -- and second, that no new information emerged from the whistle-blowers' hours-long testimony. The former claim is outright insulting. The latter betrays either aggressive ignorance or wishful thinking. House Oversight Committee Republicans' focused questioning extracted quite a few nuggets of relevant information. For their part, many committee Democrats were focused on unseemly efforts to attack, distract and smear -- all employed as they cynically groused about Republicans "politicizing" the investigation. Cutting through the nonsense and dissembling, here's what we now know:

1) Murdered US Ambassador Chris Stevens' second in command, Gregory Hicks, was instructed not to speak with a Congressional investigator by Sec. Hillary Clinton's chief of staff, Cheryl Mills. Hicks said he'd "never" faced a similar demand at any point during his distinguished 22-year diplomatic career. When he refused to comply with this request, the State Department dispatched an attorney to act as a "minder," who insisted on sitting in on all of Hicks' discussions with members of Congress (higher quality video is available here):

(2) When Hicks began to voice strenuous objections to the administration's inaccurate talking points with State Department higher-ups, the administration turned hostile. After being lavishly praised by the president and the Secretary of State for his performance under fire, Assistant Secretary of State Beth Jones instantly reversed course and launched into a "blistering critique" of Hicks' leadership. He was subsequently "effectively demoted." Hicks called Rice's talking points "stunning" and "embarrassing."

(4) A small, armed US force in Tripoli was told it did not have the authority to deploy to Benghazi in the midst of the attack. Twice. Flight time between the two cities is less than an hour. Members of the would-be rescue contingent were "furious" over this obstruction. The witnesses said they did not know who ultimately gave the "stand down" orders, or why. If it was not the Commander-in-Chief calling the shots, why not, and where was he? Whistle-blower Mark Thompson, a career counter-terrorism official at State, said he called the White House to request the immediate deployment of a Foreign Emergency Support Team (FEST) to Benghazi. He was told it was "not the right time" to do so, then was cut out of the communications loop.

(9) The US government did not seek permission from the Libyan government to fly any aircraft into Libyan airspace, aside from a drone. The witnesses testified that they believe the Libyan government would have complied with any such request. The fact that none was even made indicates that there was never a plan or intention to rush reinforcements to Benghazi. This renders the "would they have made it on time?" argument largely irrelevant -- the facts in item #4 notwithstanding. Another important point about the "they wouldn't have made it" defense: The assault lasted for eight hours and took place into two waves at two different compounds. How could anyone have known how long the fighting would last? How could they have anticipated that ex-Navy SEALs Woods and Doherty wouldn't have been able to stave off the enemy for a few more hours? Help was not on the way. It was never sent.....snip~

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/guyben...velations-from-the-benghazi-hearings-n1591336
 
'Ya know. There is plenty of red meat to attack Obama on. His assault on the Constitutional rights of American Citizens. Drone killings of women and children, which in my book amounts to premeditated murder. That's 2 important issues for starters.

So why attempt sling the kind of fake bull**** they are making up out of thin air? It just does not make sense. So, what revelations came out of the Benghazi hearings yesterday? Nothing, of course, but that won't stop Republicans from continuing to destroy their own credibility, along with their own party. And while they are destroying themselves with bull****, they are allowing Obama to get away with the kinds of things that would have made even George Bush blush.
 
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