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    Re: U.S. Offers New Details Of Deadly Libya Attack

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Okay, so if we get up in arms about 4 dead Americans, will you ask for Bush's head over 3000?
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    Re: U.S. Offers New Details Of Deadly Libya Attack

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Oh, for God's sake.
    Legitimate question. Or are deflections only allowed for MaggieD the great debater?
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    Re: U.S. Offers New Details Of Deadly Libya Attack

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Benghazi attack : The Two-Way : NPR

    According to this, they tried sending in troops, but there were no troops close enough to get there in time.



    also:



    Is not using the super secret CIA time machine an impeachable offense?

    (Normally, I don't like using NPR as a source here because it will be attacked. However, since the Daily Caller and WND are being used by the right these days....)
    There were no U.S. troops anywhere near the consulate, either in Libya or even in neighboring countries
    Damning statement right there. Where the **** were the Marines that should have been stationed at the consulate and elsewhere security was necessary. An ambassador is like a 4-star general, how many 4-star generals only have 5 men around to provide security for them when they're in a hostile environment? Why do you think the SEALS are all pissed off? They aren't stupid you know, they know a thing or two about how the military operates. The administration is treating everyone like they're six year olds, like they don't know ****. What we have here, is a failure to communicate and a failure to lead.
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    Re: U.S. Offers New Details Of Deadly Libya Attack

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Legitimate question. Or are deflections only allowed for MaggieD the great debater?
    One has absolutely nothing to do with the other, Hatuey. You just like playing the Bush Card.

    Edit: Oh! And thanks.
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    Re: U.S. Offers New Details Of Deadly Libya Attack

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    One has absolutely nothing to do with the other, Hatuey. You just like playing the Bush Card.

    Edit: Oh! And thanks.
    Ah, so the word comparison means nothing to you. More evidence you're not really here to do anything other than cheerlead for your side. As I said, if we're going to be up in arms about 4 dead Americans thanks to ****ty intelligence, then Bush's head needs to roll over 3000.
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    Re: U.S. Offers New Details Of Deadly Libya Attack

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    This attack happened over seven hours. If we couldn't deploy armed helicopters from anywhere in the region in that length of time, we should be ashamed of ourselves. If we couldn't get armed drones in the air in less than seven hours, shame on us.

    I don't believe it. And I think they are just digging themselves a bigger hole.
    Time will tell. I think that those of us who don't know the logistics should sit back and at least listen to them.

    The only thing our planes can do is drop bombs? That's a bunch of baloney. Can anyone spell strafe?
    If you're worried about civilian casualties, don't you think firing indiscriminately into a crowd would cause that? I don't think you can exactly be a sniper from a plane, but I could be wrong. There's also the fact that usually when you fly warplanes into a country's territory, that's considered an act of war. So now you're talking about the potential for another 3000 troops dead to protect 4 people. Wars can escalate quickly. I think it's a reasonable question to ask about whether it's worth another war.


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    Re: U.S. Offers New Details Of Deadly Libya Attack

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Time will tell. I think that those of us who don't know the logistics should sit back and at least listen to them.



    If you're worried about civilian casualties, don't you think firing indiscriminately into a crowd would cause that? I don't think you can exactly be a sniper from a plane, but I could be wrong. There's also the fact that usually when you fly warplanes into a country's territory, that's considered an act of war. So now you're talking about the potential for another 3000 troops dead to protect 4 people. Wars can escalate quickly. I think it's a reasonable question to ask about whether it's worth another war.
    A poster put up an amazing video earlier this week. I can't find it. It showed individual soldiers being taken out from an airplane . . . with what looked to be short-burst strafing. (I know nothing, remember. Ha!) You could see the guns in their hands and slung across their backs. It was amazing.

    Edit: Not that I don't understand what you're saying, by the way. I just had a thought though. Why doesn't the U.S. military have tear gas they can disburse across a large area to handle mobs like that? If we don't? We should.
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    Re: U.S. Offers New Details Of Deadly Libya Attack

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Time will tell. I think that those of us who don't know the logistics should sit back and at least listen to them.



    If you're worried about civilian casualties, don't you think firing indiscriminately into a crowd would cause that? I don't think you can exactly be a sniper from a plane, but I could be wrong. There's also the fact that usually when you fly warplanes into a country's territory, that's considered an act of war. So now you're talking about the potential for another 3000 troops dead to protect 4 people. Wars can escalate quickly. I think it's a reasonable question to ask about whether it's worth another war.
    Funny, you don't seem to have an issue with drones over Pakistan.
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    Re: U.S. Offers New Details Of Deadly Libya Attack

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    I read where one of the marines killed was painting a target for a nearby drone, and the order to fire from Washington was never given. Painting that target essentially painted him for the enemy, which led to his death ultimately.

    Marine killed in Libya massacre while “painting” target with laser for aircraft that never came to help « Daily Musings

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    Re: U.S. Offers New Details Of Deadly Libya Attack

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Damning statement right there. Where the **** were the Marines that should have been stationed at the consulate and elsewhere security was necessary. An ambassador is like a 4-star general, how many 4-star generals only have 5 men around to provide security for them when they're in a hostile environment? Why do you think the SEALS are all pissed off? They aren't stupid you know, they know a thing or two about how the military operates. The administration is treating everyone like they're six year olds, like they don't know ****. What we have here, is a failure to communicate and a failure to lead.
    Consulates rarely have a marine guard.

    The CIA had authority over the Consulate, not the State Dept and the former Seals were attached to the CIA Annex.

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