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    Re: Pro-oil Canada fights U.S. environmental groups

    Quote Originally Posted by The Barbarian View Post
    Im not against looking to the future, in fact Im highly in favor of it. My problem lies in when is that future going to take place ? There is nothing wrong with doing what we can do to ease or even stop or need of imported oil, while we explore other energy sources.

    Why should the American people suffer with 4 or 5 dollar a gallon gas prices when we dont have to? If we up production of oil in this country, it can only help us now and in the future as we develop new technology and need less oil, then we end up with a valuable export that brings more money into our country, until that happens we lower prices, add the much needed good paying jobs and reduce our need of foreign oil . But I guess in the minds of some those are all bad things
    Do you seriously think the price of gas will go down if the domestic product goes up? It will not. The only viable way price of gas will go down (aside from the nickel and diming gas stations do) is if people use less. So, unless you trade in your SUV/truck for some small compact, take out your bike, or move closer to the city, you won't be helping the cause.

    Also, the future of energy will not get a leg up until we are close to drying up. It's either human nature or the power that oil companies have. Climate change will not be taken seriously until it affects enough people directly, so shoot, why care now?
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    Re: Pro-oil Canada fights U.S. environmental groups

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    Do you seriously think the price of gas will go down if the domestic product goes up? It will not. The only viable way price of gas will go down (aside from the nickel and diming gas stations do) is if people use less. So, unless you trade in your SUV/truck for some small compact, take out your bike, or move closer to the city, you won't be helping the cause.

    Also, the future of energy will not get a leg up until we are close to drying up. It's either human nature or the power that oil companies have. Climate change will not be taken seriously until it affects enough people directly, so shoot, why care now?
    Yeah I do feel it will drop prices, in fact I feel that the first time we publicly say that we will be exploring and opening new areas for drilling, that will in and off its self begin to bring down prices.

    Im not sure if you are right about the future of energy, I do agree that the past says that we wont do anything if the prices drop back down, but I think (maybe its hope) that people are looking at things differently now then they were in the 70s.

    I was just a young man in the 70s and as soon as we got rid of the waiting lines I wasnt any more concerned about it then the next guy, but seeing the price rise and fall on the whims and wars in the middle east, is sickening, to say nothing of costly for Americans and in the times we are currently in its hurting the middle and lower classes a lot.

    So yes I want us to use everything we got right now, and wouldnt even be against placing a small tax on gas or oil that can only be used to fund research in new energy sources.

    So while I still say we need to find and drill for all the oil we can right now because it will lower the price, it will create jobs and it will give us a future export we need to make sure that we keep working on future clean energy.

    Right now .. Today .. In this country we have serious problems, jobs is a huge one. Drilling, building pipelines, will put people back to work, putting people back to work help funds our government. More money into our government helps us on our way to getting a balanced budget . We need to take care of todays problems, and this time not look away from the future ..

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    Re: Pro-oil Canada fights U.S. environmental groups

    Quote Originally Posted by The Barbarian View Post
    Yeah I do feel it will drop prices, in fact I feel that the first time we publicly say that we will be exploring and opening new areas for drilling, that will in and off its self begin to bring down prices.

    Im not sure if you are right about the future of energy, I do agree that the past says that we wont do anything if the prices drop back down, but I think (maybe its hope) that people are looking at things differently now then they were in the 70s.

    I was just a young man in the 70s and as soon as we got rid of the waiting lines I wasnt any more concerned about it then the next guy, but seeing the price rise and fall on the whims and wars in the middle east, is sickening, to say nothing of costly for Americans and in the times we are currently in its hurting the middle and lower classes a lot.

    So yes I want us to use everything we got right now, and wouldnt even be against placing a small tax on gas or oil that can only be used to fund research in new energy sources.

    So while I still say we need to find and drill for all the oil we can right now because it will lower the price, it will create jobs and it will give us a future export we need to make sure that we keep working on future clean energy.

    Right now .. Today .. In this country we have serious problems, jobs is a huge one. Drilling, building pipelines, will put people back to work, putting people back to work help funds our government. More money into our government helps us on our way to getting a balanced budget . We need to take care of todays problems, and this time not look away from the future ..
    The factor that you overlook is that the US and Canada have the highest lift and extraction costs in the world.

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    Re: Pro-oil Canada fights U.S. environmental groups

    Quote Originally Posted by sharon View Post
    The factor that you overlook is that the US and Canada have the highest lift and extraction costs in the world.
    The U.S. and Canada have more regulations in place than anywhere else in the world, which creates more overhead for the companies drilling and producing the oil and gas.
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    Re: Pro-oil Canada fights U.S. environmental groups

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    Do you seriously think the price of gas will go down if the domestic product goes up? It will not. The only viable way price of gas will go down (aside from the nickel and diming gas stations do) is if people use less. So, unless you trade in your SUV/truck for some small compact, take out your bike, or move closer to the city, you won't be helping the cause.

    Also, the future of energy will not get a leg up until we are close to drying up. It's either human nature or the power that oil companies have. Climate change will not be taken seriously until it affects enough people directly, so shoot, why care now?
    Prices may, or may not go down, the argument that it won't has more leaks in it than the Polish Navy, however the unemployment rate will definitely go down if drilling and production goes up.
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    Re: Pro-oil Canada fights U.S. environmental groups

    Quote Originally Posted by sharon View Post
    The factor that you overlook is that the US and Canada have the highest lift and extraction costs in the world.
    It doesnt matter, oil is a global product, the more of it there is the price goes down, Do you know what OPEC is ??? Have you followed how they take their production up or down to keep the prices where they want them ??? The more oil there is on the market that is not produced by OPEC the less they control. Once the word was to get out that we (the US) was to oo into full drilling mode, they would immediately try to increase their cheaper production to try and drop the price so that it was unprofitable for us to keep drilling. Flooding the market with this cheaper oil will do exactly what ??? Maybe drive down prices ??

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    Re: Pro-oil Canada fights U.S. environmental groups

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    But heck, harming their health is no big deal, eh? If you don't believe the averse effects that these industrial practices have on our health, then you are either naive or uninformed.
    Clean air and water is overrated.

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    Re: Pro-oil Canada fights U.S. environmental groups

    Quote Originally Posted by The Barbarian View Post
    Yeah I do feel it will drop prices, in fact I feel that the first time we publicly say that we will be exploring and opening new areas for drilling, that will in and off its self begin to bring down prices.

    Im not sure if you are right about the future of energy, I do agree that the past says that we wont do anything if the prices drop back down, but I think (maybe its hope) that people are looking at things differently now then they were in the 70s.

    I was just a young man in the 70s and as soon as we got rid of the waiting lines I wasnt any more concerned about it then the next guy, but seeing the price rise and fall on the whims and wars in the middle east, is sickening, to say nothing of costly for Americans and in the times we are currently in its hurting the middle and lower classes a lot.

    So yes I want us to use everything we got right now, and wouldnt even be against placing a small tax on gas or oil that can only be used to fund research in new energy sources.

    So while I still say we need to find and drill for all the oil we can right now because it will lower the price, it will create jobs and it will give us a future export we need to make sure that we keep working on future clean energy.

    Right now .. Today .. In this country we have serious problems, jobs is a huge one. Drilling, building pipelines, will put people back to work, putting people back to work help funds our government. More money into our government helps us on our way to getting a balanced budget . We need to take care of todays problems, and this time not look away from the future ..

    The price of gas will never go back to where it was 5-8 years ago, let alone prior. It's just not going to happen. Why? Well sharon hit on an important point. THe oil that is left is the more difficult and costly type to extract. When oil was first discovered in the Middle East, it freakin' gushed. It does not gush any more (at least like it used to) but it's still much easier to extract than our tar sands and shale oil.

    Now add to that the demand aspect keeps on growing every year, and it will be hard to keep up, especially since it will take much longer to extract and process. Just look at the estimated ANWAR reserve. In most cases, it's determined that there's enough oil to keep the US going for only 3 years. Is it would all that effort and destruction just for that???

    I realize that a lot of people do not read links, but I so hope you do with the one below. It's an easy read and does a great job of explaining gas prices and other things that are crucial:

    HowStuffWorks "How Gas Prices Work"

    Also, if you have Netflix or a video store close by, I highly recommend the doc "Gasland." Excellent and informative.

    Gasland: A film by Josh Fox
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    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The U.S. and Canada have more regulations in place than anywhere else in the world, which creates more overhead for the companies drilling and producing the oil and gas.
    Yet they still **** up like crazy. Jeepers, when will their careless destruction end?
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    Re: Pro-oil Canada fights U.S. environmental groups

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Prices may, or may not go down, the argument that it won't has more leaks in it than the Polish Navy, however the unemployment rate will definitely go down if drilling and production goes up.
    Unemployment would go down even lower if there was a push towards alternate energy research. Just sayin'.
    No men are anywhere, and Im allowed to go in, because Im the owner of the pageant and therefore Im inspecting it, Trump said... Is everyone OK? You know, theyre standing there with no clothes. Is everybody OK? And you see these incredible looking women, and so I sort of get away with things like that.

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