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    Re: Pro-oil Canada fights U.S. environmental groups

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    As long as the Canadian oil company is using eminent domain I will support any efforts to block the pipeline.
    wouldn't that be local governments using eminent domain?
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    Re: Pro-oil Canada fights U.S. environmental groups

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Blocking the pipeline is costing us jobs and is increasing gas prices.
    And increasing US dependence on less reliable friends. Harper Says Canada Committed to Selling More Oil to China - Bloomberg

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    Re: Pro-oil Canada fights U.S. environmental groups

    Quote Originally Posted by Fishstyx View Post
    The "usual" process started in 2008. The State Department was stalling this to appease a political base. There is no reason it takes 3 friggin years to review a proposal and address all concerns. If it does, then it show how utterly incompetent the State Department is in these matters.
    You do realize that it goes through an area that if contaminated will result in billions in losses as well as billions in water decontamination? GOP Congressmen, Governors and Legislatures are against the pipeline for that reason.
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    Re: Pro-oil Canada fights U.S. environmental groups

    I like the idea of getting our energy from canada, and even russia, before the middle-east. Or, how about we start figuring out a way to efficiently convert that 300 years of global-energy-consumption worth of coal under our own soil into usable gasoline.

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    Re: Pro-oil Canada fights U.S. environmental groups

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Look, the federal government tried to legislate a pipeline into existence instead of letting it go through the usual process. I'm not sure why right-wingers are supporting Congress dictating things like this.
    So the usual process doesn't include legislation?
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    Re: Pro-oil Canada fights U.S. environmental groups

    Quote Originally Posted by roflpublican View Post
    I like the idea of getting our energy from canada, and even russia, before the middle-east. Or, how about we start figuring out a way to efficiently convert that 300 years of global-energy-consumption worth of coal under our own soil into usable gasoline.
    Alaska is ready to send more oil south but the Obama government doesn't want it.

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    Re: Pro-oil Canada fights U.S. environmental groups

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    You do realize that it goes through an area that if contaminated will result in billions in losses as well as billions in water decontamination? GOP Congressmen, Governors and Legislatures are against the pipeline for that reason.
    Are there any areas where this wouldn't be true?
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    Re: Pro-oil Canada fights U.S. environmental groups

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Are there any areas where this wouldn't be true?
    Yeah, places that aren't home to the main water source for billions in agriculture. Contamination will result in costs way exceeding the pipeline's benefits.
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    Re: Pro-oil Canada fights U.S. environmental groups

    I oppose the notion of selling the US more oil. We need to re-nationalise it and sell only the surplus after supplying our own market. There is no reason our gas prices should be fluctuating due to stupidity in the Middle East when we have enough oil in Alberta to supply ourselves.
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    Re: Pro-oil Canada fights U.S. environmental groups

    Quote Originally Posted by Jonsa View Post
    wouldn't that be local governments using eminent domain?
    It is a privately foreign owned company using eminent domain and the governments in those areas aiding those companies in taking that land.
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