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    Re: Polish Catholic Church in Halloween warning

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    Folk traditions are not the same as Catholic Holy Days. Halloween is the day before All Saints and Christmas is the Feast of the Nativity. Incidental pagan traditions are just that, incidental.
    Any quite a many of these Catholic Holy Days are from incidental folk traditions.
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    Re: Polish Catholic Church in Halloween warning

    Quote Originally Posted by SMTA View Post
    Catholic Church tries again to run the world, but fails.
    Not sure how an archbishop expressing an opinion is trying to run the world. Millions of people--and not just Christians, much less Catholics--happen to agree with the archbishop.

    Whether you do, he and anybody else has the right to express that opinion. Even if it's one you dislike and regard as unnecessarily rude, ignorant, and inflammatory, as I do your post.

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    Re: Polish Catholic Church in Halloween warning

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    All the current secular practices of Halloween were part of the non secular practices of Samhain.
    Which was later goggled up by the RCC, in an attempt to remove/reduce it's effect.

    It's the part of the same reason Christmas has co opted so many pagan traditions.
    They wanted more members and they wanted to get rid of older religions.
    It wasn't the RCC as we know it today, but merely a continuation of the Roman state religion/s policy of subsuming the local pagan Gods/practices into their existing state religion/s as a part of their conquest. Bits and pieces of many local pagan rites and rituals were adopted to make the "Romanisation" of the dominated culture more acceptable.
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    Re: Polish Catholic Church in Halloween warning

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    It wasn't the RCC as we know it today, but merely a continuation of the Roman state religion/s policy of subsuming the local pagan Gods/practices into their existing state religion/s as a part of their conquest. Bits and pieces of many local pagan rites and rituals were adopted to make the "Romanisation" of the dominated culture more acceptable.
    That's more or less what I was getting at.
    But you're absolutely right.
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    Re: Polish Catholic Church in Halloween warning

    I agree, had Christianity not hitched a ride on the expanding empire, then Sol Invictus might still be the go-to God.
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    Re: Polish Catholic Church in Halloween warning

    I don't understand all the fuss. Halloween is a lame holiday.
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    Re: Polish Catholic Church in Halloween warning

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    Aside from clothing manufacturers, media representatives, local tradition, and neo-paganists themselves?
    Neopaganists are promoting Satan now are they?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    I mean, I'm certainly not concerned about the holiday itself, but it's a bit hard to deny the long-standing tradition of running around as a demon with your little bucket trying to get candy, watching Dracula movies, and so on.
    I didn't say that there is no one who wears a devil costume.
    I said that churches are the ones who do the most to promote the association of Halloween with the Devil.

    Check T3h Google

    Devils are très passé



    Top 10 most popular Halloween costumes - latimes.com

    Halloween Costumes for Kids - Halloween Costume Ideas for Kids - Good Housekeeping
    The National Retail Federation recently revealed the top-selling children's Halloween costumes. Here, we countdown 15 most popular, just in time to outfit your little trick-or-treater.

    And none of that even gets into the discussion about whether or not dressing up as a devil is the same as diabolism or actually doing anything of the sort that is often alleged by various churches.
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Polish Catholic Church in Halloween warning

    Quote Originally Posted by Surtr View Post
    I don't understand all the fuss. Halloween is a lame holiday.
    Blasphemer!
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Polish Catholic Church in Halloween warning

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    Blasphemer!
    If I don't get the day off, it's a crap holiday.
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    Polish Catholic Church in Halloween warning

    Bishops and cardinals have wide latitude to make statements about any social or religious issue that may or may not agree with the stances of other bishops or cardinals, or even Rome. As long as they are not heretical, anything goes. This archbishop was making a statement to the members of his own diocese, which is not binding. He did not forbid trick or treating, only warned the faithful about an issue he felt strongly about. Don't see why anyone feels a need to use this as anti-Catholic fodder (but I understand people will).
    The morality of abortion is not a religious belief, any more than the morality of slavery, apartheid, rape, larceny, murder or arson is a religious belief. These are norms of the natural law of mankind and can be legislated even in a completely religionless society.

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