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    Re: AP poll: Majority harbor prejudice against blacks

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    yeah. what relevance does where you live have on whether or not you are a racist? other than to feed into their preconceived stereotypes of who is or is not racist. an interesting experiment (but not interesting enough for me to spend the time wading through all that crap twice) would be to take the survey twice and answer the first part differently each time (conservative southerner once and liberal northerner once) then make all the other choices the same and see if you get the same results or if the "demographics" questions influence how racist they think you are
    Yes. I'm sure the researchers are skewing the results based on whether you are a "conservative southerner". But you don't have to worry, Oscar. Just make sure you let them know you have two adopted black kids and I'm sure they'll score you as "no implicit racism".

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    Re: AP poll: Majority harbor prejudice against blacks

    Quote Originally Posted by the_recruit View Post
    I already explained this. Those questions have nothing to do with the test. The researchers are obviously just trying to collect some background information so they can check for possible correlations.

    I'm not sure which test you took. No test I provided a link for gave such instructions.

    I agree with Joko. If you are unable to read and follow simple instructions, then don't take the test. It's a waste of your time.
    The test specifically asks political affiliation, your age, zip code and race.

    It then asks you do identify people by race by pictures of their face. That, of course, is a false measure of "race." So it is an ignorant test per se. It said I got some of those wrong, that I was not accurately identifying who is "black" and who is "white." I did not grow up with white, black, hispanic or asian people and as an adult I was around very mixed-race people - mostly black and white blue collar. To the extend a person's racial heritage can be known by face, it is not in the darkness shade of their face - though Harvard zippy pinheads might see it that way. It more has to do with facial bone structure, something Harvard apparently does not recognize.

    Since the measuring method was sooooo superficially obvious in grotesque collective stereotyping, I was curious what it say given how most of my answers screamed "liberal" and therefore NOT racist - but southern and some "conservative" and "white-like" responses - with the real complexity that I wasn't in the southern-white bigot categories racially - plus I could not accurately measure people's race by a small center square of the person's face.

    It then sent me to the next test, for which I was to say whether a face was "bad" or "good." The "e" key for "bad" and "i" key for "good."

    The test might have variables as I don't fall well into their stereotyping not being white, black or Latino and can't accurately identify race by face - maybe the program then required I do the bad-or-good person face test. If a person claims they can decide who is good or bad by their face - regardless of racial aspects - that person is per se prejudiced. Since I don't and can't judge people that way, I bailed out.

    I can see how East Coast white liberal academics would see it as a cool test to prove white Southern Republicans are bigots. Its just crap and its core premises prove whoever created this test is/are a bigot and racist.

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    Re: AP poll: Majority harbor prejudice against blacks

    Quote Originally Posted by the_recruit View Post
    Yes. I'm sure the researchers are skewing the results based on whether you are a "conservative southerner". But you don't have to worry, Oscar. Just make sure you let them know you have two adopted black kids and I'm sure they'll score you as "no implicit racism".
    So says the white-guilter who is feeling the pain of African-Americans.

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    Re: AP poll: Majority harbor prejudice against blacks

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    The test specifically asks political affiliation, your age, zip code and race.
    Yes it does. And I've explained multiple times now why they do so.

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    It then asks you do identify people by race by pictures of their face. That, of course, is a false measure of "race." So it is an ignorant test per se. It said I got some of those wrong, that I was not accurately identifying who is "black" and who is "white." I did not grow up with white, black, hispanic or asian people and as an adult I was around very mixed-race people - mostly black and white blue collar. To the extend a person's racial heritage can be known by face, it is not in the darkness shade of their face - though Harvard zippy pinheads might see it that way. It more has to do with facial bone structure, something Harvard apparently does not recognize.
    They let you decide. There's no right/wrong answer to that portion of the test. You get to classify the faces according to whatever features you want.

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Since the measuring method was sooooo superficially obvious in grotesque collective stereotyping, I was curious what it say given how most of my answers screamed "liberal" and therefore NOT racist - but southern and some "conservative" and "white-like" responses - with the real complexity that I wasn't in the southern-white bigot categories racially - plus I could not accurately measure people's race by a small center square of the person's face.
    That's like sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oo not true.

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    It then sent me to the next test, for which I was to say whether a face was "bad" or "good." The "e" key for "bad" and "i" key for "good."
    No it did not. You either didn't read or didn't understand the simple instructions.

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    Re: AP poll: Majority harbor prejudice against blacks

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    So says the white-guilter who is feeling the pain of African-Americans.
    White guilt? Hahahahaha.


    I love it when strangers on the internet think they have me figured out, but fail miserably and are completely off the mark. It gives me a twisted sort of satisfaction. So, thank you, Joko.

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    Re: AP poll: Majority harbor prejudice against blacks

    Quote Originally Posted by the_recruit View Post
    Yes it does. And I've explained multiple times now why they do so.



    They let you decide. There's no right/wrong answer to that portion of the test. You get to classify the faces according to whatever features you want.



    That's like sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oo not true.



    No it did not. You either didn't read or didn't understand the simple instructions.
    That is 100% false. It exactly had that on the test. I got it right about you, regardless of what you may pretend to be otherwise.

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    Re: AP poll: Majority harbor prejudice against blacks

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    That is 100% false. It exactly had that on the test.
    No it did not. I will say it one more time. You misread the very simple instructions. I'm not sure why I'm even bothering here. I know you don't have the backbone to go re-take the test, realize you were wrong, and then come back and admit your error. You're just gonna keep swearing up and down that you didn't make mistake.

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    I got it right about you, regardless of what you may pretend to be otherwise.
    Yes. You read me like a book (ie, not very well).

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    Re: AP poll: Majority harbor prejudice against blacks

    Preferring to be with your own kind is natural and not racist...blacks feel the same way...hispanics feel the same way...you can break that down by race or ethnicity and it will all be the same...people are more comfortable around their own and theres nothing wrong with that and it is not racist or bias.
    To be racist you have to blatantly vocalize hatred or dislike for someone because of who or what they are...or outright discriminate against them against the law...but there is no moral or legal obligation to love someone else.

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    Re: AP poll: Majority harbor prejudice against blacks

    Didnt read the whole thread but a couple things

    I majority of people are "prejudice" against race, ive seen nothing in my life time to suggest otherwise.

    now with that being said prejudice is vastly different from racist, prejudice is typically easily over come with a conversation, working together, basic interaction etc etc.

    Racism is substantially more concrete. Even after a conversation, working together etc that person still has a hatred for almost all people of that race or a great distrust or disgust.
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    Re: AP poll: Majority harbor prejudice against blacks

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Preferring to be with your own kind is natural and not racist...blacks feel the same way...hispanics feel the same way...you can break that down by race or ethnicity and it will all be the same...people are more comfortable around their own and theres nothing wrong with that and it is not racist or bias.
    To be racist you have to blatantly vocalize hatred or dislike for someone because of who or what they are...or outright discriminate against them against the law...but there is no moral or legal obligation to love someone else.

    I disagree with your definitions and I suppose that is why so many who are racist can get away with claiming they aren't "racist" - because they feel that as long as they don't do stupid things like lynching an image of the President, or shout "Nigger!" when they drive by an African-American walking along or behave in any other such blatant fashion, that means they must not be racists - they just prefer being around their own "kind"

    More and more of America's youth are rejecting that attitude - for many of them, their own "kind" simply means people of their own age with zero regard for colour or ethnicity.
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