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Indiana Republican: When life begins from rape, "God intended" it [W:266]

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Indiana Republican: When life begins from rape, God intended it | Reuters

(Reuters) - Richard Mourdock, the Republican candidate for the U.S. Senate in Indiana, said in a debate on Tuesday that "even when life begins with that horrible situation of rape, that is something that God intended to happen."

The remark drew criticism from his Democratic opponent, congressman Joe Donnelly, as well as from Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney's camp - even as Mourdock defended his word

Honestly, I think it is a reasonable and somewhat consistent position, although I don't agree with it. From the standpoint of someone trying to get elected in a close race with an unusually strong Libertarian candidate to splinter the Republican vote, it was just a stupid thing to say though. If it plays anything like Todd Akin's comment did, Joe Donnelly will take the senate seat from the Republicans in Indiana. I'd pretty much given up hope for the Republicans to take the senate this year anyway. Things looking very good for the GOP in 2014 though.
 
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Stop complaining! Romney Halloween masks are outselling the Obama ones. And by history which mask sells more is a surefire indication that candidate will win!

But that said, what this Murdoch person has said is an abomination, an absolute abomination along the same line as that Todd Akin who said rape is legitimate. Now, one can expect that the incidences of rape will increase ten fold. Folks, this insanity has got to stop! One can put the mind set of this Akin and Murdoch in the same category of madness as the taliban and others of their kind with their demented views.
 
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I think it's an excellent illustration of the mentality of some candidates that make you wonder about all of them.

I'm sure god is thrilled with the free publicity.
 
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Ok.

The child, the fetus, is indeed blameless. He isn't to blame for the actions of his "biological father" or "mother" because women also rape men sometimes.

Anyway. I consider that a woman shouldn't have to go through 9 months of pregnancy, plus birth pains, plus the changing of the body that comes with birth... because of some scumbag. And she especially shouldn't have to go through it alone, without a caring father. And the child shouldn't raise without a caring father either. So abortion should be an option regardless of what some idiot who claims he can speak for God says. Unless you're the head of the Church and have a correct life and live in accordance to the religion you preach and its symbols, stfu. You can't presume to "know" what God wants.

You can be certain of a few things. What are the pillars of said religion. If you happen to a Christian, a fundamental rule of Christianity is FREE WILL. If GOD gives mankind FREE WILL, who are you, as an individual, to deny FREE WILL on some very important issues to other men and women.
 
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One can put the mind set of this Akin and Murdoch in the same category of madness as the taliban and others of their kind with their demented views.

I don't think that's true. Although I disagree with their views, and Akin said a lot that was just factually wrong, I can understand the reasoning behind their views and I think they are logically consistent. I also don't believe they've descended anywhere near the levels of madness as blowing up schools and assassinating 11 year olds.
 
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Indiana Republican: When life begins from rape, God intended it | Reuters



Honestly, I think it is a reasonable and somewhat consistent position, although I don't agree with it. From the standpoint of someone trying to get elected in a close race with an unusually strong Libertarian candidate to splinter the Republican vote, it was just a stupid thing to say though. If it plays anything like Todd Akin's comment did, Joe Donnelly will take the senate seat from the Republicans in Indiana. I'd pretty much given up hope for the Republicans to take the senate this year anyway. Things looking very good for the GOP in 2014 though.

As worded, I don't see that phrase as reasonable. "God intended" is a theologically loaded phrase. The nature of the human will and its role in the designs of God makes the relationship between "God's intentions" and human events mysterious.
 
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That was one of the sickest things I've seen. Now are we going to see rapists claiming in court, "God told me to rape her. It's his will."?
 
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That was one of the sickest things I've seen. Now are we going to see rapists claiming in court, "God told me to rape her. It's his will."?

Yes in a GOP lead country that will be the law.. just as it is in many Muslim countries who all live in the 1400s still.

And Romney agrees and backs this guy and has even campaigned for him...
 
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In essence he is just saying that rapists are doing God's work. What's the big deal?

;)
 
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It is not our goal to figure out God's intentions, but rather obey his commands so that we may be part of his intentions.
 
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Meh. There's nothing wrong with what he said.
 
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Meh. There's nothing wrong with what he said.

Yea it happens all the time in some places in the US, among Christian pedophile cults, and that is accepted.
 
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I vehemently disagree with these politicians who think they know what God intends. I can't tell you the sense of helplessness that comes from a woman and her young daughter showing up in a domestic violence center, both of them scared to death, and mom's desperation after learning her 12 year old daughter was raped by her own husband (the girl's stepfather). I will point these mothers and daughters to the nearest abortion clinic every time if that's what they're looking for. And then I'll point them to the nearest gun store so that Mom can ensure he never lays another hand on either one of them. So far, both abortions and guns are legal in my state - and it needs to stay that way.
I don't pretend to know what God 'intends', but I'm pretty sure He didn't intend for these monsters to annihilate His children.
 
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This is brought to you by the party of "the bitch deserved it".
 
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"even when life begins with that horrible situation of rape, that is something that God intended to happen."

Seriously? Are people actually defending this position? Defending what that ignorant and vile human being said?

Come on people. This is no joke. This is disgusting, appalling, and highly disturbing.

He's running for office and people are supporting him?
 
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In Missouri, Republican Senate candidate Todd Akin prompted an uproar by saying women's bodies have defenses against pregnancy after "legitimate rape," and now trails in his race.

So if the woman "get's pregnant" it's obvious to Todd Akin the woman wasn't "raped"?

WTF is he talking about?
 
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Meh. There's nothing wrong with what he said.

Everything is wrong with what he said.
 
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Yea it happens all the time in some places in the US, among Christian pedophile cults, and that is accepted.

Cheap shot, like this entire thread. If you adopt a pro-life position for any religious reason, then it's likely that you believe God intended for every conception to occur, regardless of the circumstances-- his statement does not condone rape or say that rapists were doing God's will, but rather that the products of rape are just as much God's children as the products of loving married couples.

Which, if you are truly Christian and truly pro-life, is self-evident.

Believing in the "rape exception" to abortion bans as anything other than a compromise to save as many unborn children as possible is morally inconsistent-- and has rather horrifying implications for people who were conceived in that fashion.
 
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Rape and abortion are albatrosses bringing the republican party down. It is like daily any more that republicans say stupid **** in the abortion debate. If it is not rape it is a failure to understand basic medicine.

FactCheck.org : The Life of the Mother

Walsh made his controversial comments after an Oct. 18 debate with Democratic challenger Tammy Duckworth. Walsh said that with “modern technology and science,” there wasn’t “one instance” where an abortion would be necessary to save the mother’s life. When a reporter asked him to clarify that he was saying it was never medically necessary to perform an abortion to save the life of the mother, Walsh replied, “Absolutely.”
 
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News flash - pregnancy is biology. Not divine intervention.
 
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It's consistent, rape doesn't lessen the value of the life conceived.

Doesn't make it any less disgusting that it's consistent with their disgusting values.
 
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Seriously? Are people actually defending this position? Defending what that ignorant and vile human being said?

Come on people. This is no joke. This is disgusting, appalling, and highly disturbing.

He's running for office and people are supporting him?

Yes, let's exclude from office every theist who believes "bad things must happen for a reason" as a solution to the problem of evil...

Welp, there went most of the country.
 
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Doesn't make it any less disgusting that it's consistent with their disgusting values.

When did "Don't kill the innocent" become a disgusting value? Did I miss that meeting when society switched to the dark side?
 
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When did "Don't kill the innocent" become a disgusting value? Did I miss that meeting when society switched to the dark side?

The "Let's force a shattered woman to be tortured for 9 months" is a disgusting value.
 
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