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    Re: Indiana Republican: When life begins from rape, "God intended" it [W:266]

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective-J View Post
    this fact will be ignored by the willfully ignorant and dishonest. Why? because it proves all their BS wrong



    This guy thought that he had a natural right to stay dry in his Volvo in Manhattan tonight.Nature and natural law thought otherwise.
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    Re: Indiana Republican: When life begins from rape, "God intended" it [W:266]

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    False. I'm not talking about protections, I'm talking about certainty within nature itself.
    There is no such thing as "certainty" no matter which way you come about the topic.

    No protection can possibly exist which prevents nature from taking its course. We can imagine and codify as many protections as we want and nature will not be deterred.
    That is different topic all together. We all die, but we can fight to prevent it when we can.

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    Re: Indiana Republican: When life begins from rape, "God intended" it [W:266]

    Quote Originally Posted by treedancer View Post


    This guy thought that he had a natural right to stay dry in his Volvo in Manhattan tonight.Nature and natural law thought otherwise.
    All you are doing with that is showing your ignorance in relation to natural rights.

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    Re: Indiana Republican: When life begins from rape, "God intended" it [W:266]

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Even if natural rights do exist in reality, there is no way of being 100% certain that the things which receive that label are part of that group, or if it is merely wishful thinking on our parts which puts it within that group.
    And why would that be exactly?

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    Re: Indiana Republican: When life begins from rape, "God intended" it [W:266]

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Natural rights philosophers do not define reality. We're discussing facts, not opinions. It is a fact that a natural right to life cannot possibly exist.
    Prove that life doesn't exist in nature and aggression on that life is desirable. Have fun.
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    Re: Indiana Republican: When life begins from rape, "God intended" it [W:266]

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    There is no such thing as "certainty" no matter which way you come about the topic.
    Absolutely false. Death is the one thing we can say, without any shadow of a doubt, is a certainty.

    Isn't it funny how that's exactly what I'm talking about?



    That is different topic all together. We all die, but we can fight to prevent it when we can
    You can't prevent death. That's the myth that people have based on wishful thinking. At best you can postpone it for a miniscule amount of time. At worst, you can't even do that piddling amount.
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    Re: Indiana Republican: When life begins from rape, "God intended" it [W:266]

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Absolutely false. Death is the one thing we can say, without any shadow of a doubt, is a certainty.

    Isn't it funny how that's exactly what I'm talking about?
    Ok, I misunderstood then.

    Well yes, we all are born and we all will die.


    You can't prevent death. That's the myth that people have based on wishful thinking. At best you can postpone it for a miniscule amount of time. At worst, you can't even do that piddling amount.
    That is what I said more or less. Death will happen, but you can hold it off when possible. I would think the fundamental purpose of government is to stop the people from killing each other to do just that.

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    Re: Indiana Republican: When life begins from rape, "God intended" it [W:266]

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    And why would that be exactly?
    For the same reason you said "There is no such thing as "certainty" no matter which way you come about the topic. "

    Of course, you were incorrect, as there is one thing that is certain (death), but for most everything else, it's accurate.

    So how about this, why don't YOU answer your own question here, since you already agreed with my statement which triggered the question only two posts prior to asking the question. Even though you were wrong about the fact that death is certain, you were absolutely correct about the lack of certainty with regard to knowing whether we've accurately labeled a natural right or just engaged in wishful thinking.
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    Re: Indiana Republican: When life begins from rape, "God intended" it [W:266]

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Prove that life doesn't exist in nature and aggression on that life is desirable. Have fun.
    Why on Earth would I have to prove those things? They do not relate, in any way, shape, or form to what I'm discussing.
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    Re: Indiana Republican: When life begins from rape, "God intended" it [W:266]

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Ok, I misunderstood then.

    Well yes, we all are born and we all will die.
    Thus proving that no natural right to life exists.

    A natural desire to live exists, but not a right to live.




    That is what I said more or less. Death will happen, but you can hold it off when possible. I would think the fundamental purpose of government is to stop the people from killing each other to do just that.
    Why would that be the fundamental purpose of government? If we know anything for certain, every government does the exact opposite on occasion. Our own government does it more often than most. So why would you think that that is the fundamental purpose of government when the evidence suggests that there is no way that could possibly be it's fundamental purpose?
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