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    Re: Indiana Republican: When life begins from rape, "God intended" it [W:266]

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    Glad to see we agree on that.

    Rape is already a really tricky thing to prove in court. Too many cases happen where a guy has sex with a willing woman, the woman gets pregnant, then turns around and calls it rape to save face. On no planet can that be considered murder.
    well we do agree

    but theres lots of false cases out there including murder charges right now, that wouldnt stop me from calling it murder id be fine with a murder charge also. Id actually like the death penalty as an option for rape.

    what you are talking about is the broken system, the charge is fine but the system needs some fixing and i agree with that.
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    Re: Indiana Republican: When life begins from rape, "God intended" it [W:266]

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    I don't agree with criminalizing for two reasons.

    1. The government hasn't shown me it understands proper restraints and an issue like this dictates that it not only understands them, but practices them.

    2. I'm not convinced it will make much of a positive difference, but I'm more than convinced it will result in many negative consequences. While I want to protect human life at the maximum of my abilities I'm not sold this is the way to do it.

    Still, I can not join in with people that say it should be a choice. That implies there is nothing wrong with it and its just a matter of choice if that is what people want. That would mean that certain right violations are just a matter of choice if you want to take part in them. I can not agree with such a premise.
    You will get no road rash from me if you oppose abortion but do not seek to criminalize it. I think folks such as you can make a tremendous quality of life contribution, enhancing adoption laws, etc. and I'd be happy to join in such efforts.

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    Re: Indiana Republican: When life begins from rape, "God intended" it [W:266]

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective-J View Post
    well we do agree

    but theres lots of false cases out there including murder charges right now, that wouldnt stop me from calling it murder id be fine with a murder charge also. Id actually like the death penalty as an option for rape.

    what you are talking about is the broken system, the charge is fine but the system needs some fixing and i agree with that.
    Jesus, death penalty for rape? I could maybe understand if it were an extremely violent one. That's a question for another thread though.
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    Re: Indiana Republican: When life begins from rape, "God intended" it [W:266]

    Quote Originally Posted by Pinkie View Post
    Whether the woman consented is certainly key to determining that a rape occurred, but there's no "accidental" sex act that could leave her pregnant.

    If she did consent to sex but not to being infected with a deadly STI, and she dies, it's Murder One.
    I don't know why you keep quoting me over and over again saying the same thing that "it's murder one".

    I tend to rely on evidence and legal definitions. You can really stop wasting your time if you're not going to provide either of those.
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    Re: Indiana Republican: When life begins from rape, "God intended" it [W:266]

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    Jesus, death penalty for rape? I could maybe understand if it were an extremely violent one. That's a question for another thread though.
    yes absolutely its a despicable crime that most certainly should have the death penalty on the table, and I believe it already is for repeat offenders.
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    Re: Indiana Republican: When life begins from rape, "God intended" it [W:266]

    Quote Originally Posted by Pinkie View Post
    It's a big deal to me -- our loved ones should be off-limits in trash talk about abortion.
    To be fair, he was the one who mentioned his daughter and what he originally wanted done about the situation. If I remember correct Jay said something about it and Objective said he was wrong. I took offense to that because what Jay said was in fact correct and Objective was being dishonest about the entire thing.

    Perhaps I shouldn't have said anything on it, but it felt like the right thing to do at the time.

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    Re: Indiana Republican: When life begins from rape, "God intended" it [W:266]

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    To be fair, he was the one who mentioned his daughter and what he originally wanted done about the situation. If I remember correct Jay said something about it and Objective said he was wrong. I took offense to that because what Jay said was in fact correct and Objective was being dishonest about the entire thing.

    Perhaps I shouldn't have said anything on it, but it felt like the right thing to do at the time.
    this is simply a lie LMAO

    heres my original comment to JayDubya

    Quote Originally Posted by JayDubya View Post
    No, it really didn't. If you abandon your principles the moment they become inconvenient, you never had principles. We weren't ready and we had some hard times making ends meet.

    How awesome is my unplanned kid? So awesome.
    and I said:
    Quote Originally Posted by Objective-J View Post
    my unplanned kid is awesome too and i got full sole custody.

    guess what, i still wanted her (my Girlfriend) to get an abortion at the time and would never ever think its ok to force my views on others and make abortion illegal
    whats dishonest about my post? NOTHING lol
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    Re: Indiana Republican: When life begins from rape, "God intended" it [W:266]

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    I don't know why you keep quoting me over and over again saying the same thing that "it's murder one".

    I tend to rely on evidence and legal definitions. You can really stop wasting your time if you're not going to provide either of those.
    Murder One is a premeditated, criminal act that causes death.

    I hope to God for your sake that you are not in law school.

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    Re: Indiana Republican: When life begins from rape, "God intended" it [W:266]

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    To be fair, he was the one who mentioned his daughter and what he originally wanted done about the situation. If I remember correct Jay said something about it and Objective said he was wrong. I took offense to that because what Jay said was in fact correct and Objective was being dishonest about the entire thing.

    Perhaps I shouldn't have said anything on it, but it felt like the right thing to do at the time.
    IMO, it is never the right thing to do. I myself have said such things as "I want my daughter to have reproductive rights".

    That's not an opening for some jackass to demand I deny I considered aborting my daughter, Henrin.

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    Re: Indiana Republican: When life begins from rape, "God intended" it [W:266]

    Quote Originally Posted by Pinkie View Post
    Murder One is a premeditated, criminal act that causes death.

    I hope to God for your sake that you are not in law school.
    Yep, the murder is premeditated. Thank you for regurgitating the definition I already gave you. Next topic.
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