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    re: Indiana Republican: When life begins from rape, "God intended" it [W:266]

    Quote Originally Posted by Uzidoesit View Post
    Every baby should be a wanted baby...and that's that. That's every babies birthright.
    It's also every woman's right that they not be violated by rape either.

    Reality ensues.
    Also, we need to legalize recreational drugs and prostitution.

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    re: Indiana Republican: When life begins from rape, "God intended" it [W:266]

    Quote Originally Posted by JayDubya View Post
    I'll repeat my request once more and more directly: you are lying and you are trolling and you know full well that you are doing both. You really ought to stop.

    And get real. Your "reproductive rights" is code for "abortion on demand," which no ****, I oppose - it's a human rights abuse.

    You seem to think you can make a blanket statement that people who don't support needless killing hate and want to control women. But no, it doesn't logically follow, and you can damn well be expected - no, demanded - to know better.
    Jay...not only would you love to control women's reproductive rights...but also it now seems that you are the world's first true mind reader. You know how to read codes in my head. Goooood boy...Jay. Well done!

    WOMEN HAVE A RIGHT TO HAVE AN ABORTION IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA WITHIN THE PARAMETERS OF THE LAW! That is a dead-dog fact. Get your facts straight, Jay.

    Human rights? In my humble opinion...human's would have no rights if you had anything to do about it, especially women.

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    re: Indiana Republican: When life begins from rape, "God intended" it [W:266]

    Let me close this dumb topic already....

    First I am a realistic reasonable Christian who believes we should all honor God's laws, BUT. I don't believe anyone should be forced too.

    I think women, whether pregnant on accident, rape, planned pregnancy whatever, should have the choice to abort or not. That way God's laws aren't being forced on her she can choose to go against them. PEOPLE deserve to choose to break the laws of God. I don't want people not being able to sin if they really want to. That would be unfair to those who struggle trying not to sin.

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    re: Indiana Republican: When life begins from rape, "God intended" it [W:266]

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    If you are going to use the defense that its her body and therefore her right to abort than you have no idea how the right actually functions at all or how negative rights do for that matter. To say you have the right to kill another being with the right to your body is completely missing the point of what it means to begin with. To defend abortion with such an argument is saying you have the right to violate someone else's life and body because of your right to your body. That is not how it works at all. You can not use your right to your body in defense to kill another on face value. It is invalid nonsense that only someone completely ignorant on the ideas laid out in front them would use. The only way this argument even gets close to working is self defense, but we are not merely talking of self defense, are we?

    So, in other words, your right to bodily autonomy does not protect your body from being subjugated for the purposes of others.

    This makes the entire premise of your ideology a lie. And proves Paralogic correct, which really just makes me want to find a quiet corner and drink myself to death.

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    re: Indiana Republican: When life begins from rape, "God intended" it [W:266]

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    It is not a right at all, first off. Second, calling it selfish to protect the human race is idiotic.
    nope totally logical to call those idiots selfish that think that way because they are ignoring the rights liberities and freedoms of the woman, they are ignoring that forcing her to risk her life is wrong and they are ignoring that there are TWO lifes involved. so yes its selfish
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    re: Indiana Republican: When life begins from rape, "God intended" it [W:266]

    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post
    Jay...not only would you love to control women's reproductive rights...but also it now seems that you are the world's first true mind reader. You know how to read codes in my head. Goooood boy...Jay. Well done!

    WOMEN HAVE A RIGHT TO HAVE AN ABORTION IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA WITHIN THE PARAMETERS OF THE LAW! That is a dead-dog fact. Get your facts straight, Jay.

    Human rights? In my humble opinion...human's would have no rights if you had anything to do about it, especially women.
    so true as proven over and over again by his own words
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    re: Indiana Republican: When life begins from rape, "God intended" it [W:266]

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    Or they can decide to get help for the trauma and get an abortion as well. That's a valid choice too.
    Not really. That runs the risk of additional trauma and sure thing of a death while what I'm talking about just has the chance of dealing with that trauma.

    I think it's pretty obvious that the rape victim should choose which wrong to pursue as a matter of personal conscience rather than have someone else dictate it to her.
    Pregnancy is not a wrong, so continuing the pregnancy is also not a wrong. In terms of choices she has the choice of non-aggression and the choice of aggression towards another. I think its interesting how aggression towards your person gives you the right to put forward aggression towards a party not guilty of that aggression.

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    re: Indiana Republican: When life begins from rape, "God intended" it [W:266]

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Pregnancy is not a wrong, so continuing the pregnancy is also not a wrong. In terms of choices she has the choice of non-aggression and the choice of aggression towards another. I think its interesting how aggression towards your person gives you the right to put forward aggression towards a party not guilty of that aggression.
    If it is present inside your body against your wishes, its very presence is a violation.

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    re: Indiana Republican: When life begins from rape, "God intended" it [W:266]

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    Or they can decide to get help for the trauma and get an abortion as well. That's a valid choice too.



    I think it's pretty obvious that the rape victim should choose which wrong to pursue as a matter of personal conscience rather than have someone else dictate it to her.

    Shhhhhhh

    Samsmart thats too logical to be accepted, common sense like this will be wasted on some posters because its too free of a choice and the woman gets to keep to many rights.
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    re: Indiana Republican: When life begins from rape, "God intended" it [W:266]

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Not really. That runs the risk of additional trauma and sure thing of a death while what I'm talking about just has the chance of dealing with that trauma.
    And that is a choice individual women should make, not a choice you, or anyone else, should make for them.

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Pregnancy is not a wrong, so continuing the pregnancy is also not a wrong. In terms of choices she has the choice of non-aggression and the choice of aggression towards another. I think its interesting how aggression towards your person gives you the right to put forward aggression towards a party not guilty of that aggression.
    Nobody ever said life was fair. However, granting women the choice legally is more fair than the alternative.
    Also, we need to legalize recreational drugs and prostitution.

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