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    re: Indiana Republican: When life begins from rape, "God intended" it [W:266]

    Quote Originally Posted by JayDubya View Post
    I'm not a coward. I am a gender equitist. I don't want to "control" anyone.

    If you would please, have the sort of day that people who perpetuate such ridiculous slander deserve.
    You believe in the repression of women, Jay...and that is a stone cold fact.

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    re: Indiana Republican: When life begins from rape, "God intended" it [W:266]

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    Yes. That way is to allow women to exercise their reproductive rights.
    So why then is emotional trauma still there or even worse after an abortion?

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    We do it all the time with our capital punishment of criminals.
    Fair enough, but that is just defending one wrong with another.

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    re: Indiana Republican: When life begins from rape, "God intended" it [W:266]

    Quote Originally Posted by Viktyr Gehrig View Post
    Everything when that other human being is growing inside your body. One would think this would go without saying.
    One would think that it would go without saying that the right to your body doesn't including the killing of others for mere convenience. It's interesting how little people understand the right to your body.

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    re: Indiana Republican: When life begins from rape, "God intended" it [W:266]

    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post
    You believe in the repression of women, Jay...and that is a stone cold fact.
    Please refrain from bad faith posting.

    Please don't call your defamation - not just unsubstantiated opinion, but knowingly-made defamation - "facts."

    I believe strongly in human equality - that we are all created equal. I have never advocated repression.

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    re: Indiana Republican: When life begins from rape, "God intended" it [W:266]

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    One would think that it would go without saying that the right to your body doesn't including the killing of others for mere convenience. It's interesting how little people understand the right to your body.
    One would think that any concept of bodily sovereignty that was at all functional would include the right to remove unwanted organisms from it.

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    re: Indiana Republican: When life begins from rape, "God intended" it [W:266]

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    Indiana Republican: When life begins from rape, God intended it | Reuters



    Honestly, I think it is a reasonable and somewhat consistent position, although I don't agree with it. From the standpoint of someone trying to get elected in a close race with an unusually strong Libertarian candidate to splinter the Republican vote, it was just a stupid thing to say though. If it plays anything like Todd Akin's comment did, Joe Donnelly will take the senate seat from the Republicans in Indiana. I'd pretty much given up hope for the Republicans to take the senate this year anyway. Things looking very good for the GOP in 2014 though.
    So basically, he is saying that god intended for a woman to be raped?

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    re: Indiana Republican: When life begins from rape, "God intended" it [W:266]

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    One would think that it would go without saying that the right to your body doesn't including the killing of others for mere convenience. It's interesting how little people understand the right to your body.
    So possible death is just a mere inconvience?
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    re: Indiana Republican: When life begins from rape, "God intended" it [W:266]

    Quote Originally Posted by JayDubya View Post
    Please refrain from bad faith posting.

    Please don't call your defamation - not just unsubstantiated opinion, but knowingly-made defamation - "facts."

    I believe strongly in human equality - that we are all created equal. I have never advocated repression.
    You can bull**** some of the people sometime...but not all of the people all of the time. Repression is control. You would - if you had the power - control the reproductive rights of every woman on the planet.

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    re: Indiana Republican: When life begins from rape, "God intended" it [W:266]

    Quote Originally Posted by Viktyr Gehrig View Post
    He is in my home unbidden. His very presence is a violation.
    I know that is what you think. You think that instead of calling the cops and having him removed the correct course of action is to shoot and kill him.

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    re: Indiana Republican: When life begins from rape, "God intended" it [W:266]

    Quote Originally Posted by Viktyr Gehrig View Post
    One would think that any concept of bodily sovereignty that was at all functional would include the right to remove unwanted organisms from it.
    If you are going to use the defense that its her body and therefore her right to abort than you have no idea how the right actually functions at all or how negative rights do for that matter. To say you have the right to kill another being with the right to your body is completely missing the point of what it means to begin with. To defend abortion with such an argument is saying you have the right to violate someone else's life and body because of your right to your body. That is not how it works at all. You can not use your right to your body in defense to kill another on face value. It is invalid nonsense that only someone completely ignorant on the ideas laid out in front them would use. The only way this argument even gets close to working is self defense, but we are not merely talking of self defense, are we?

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