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    re: Indiana Republican: When life begins from rape, "God intended" it [W:266]

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    That's what I think, which is why I don't see it as God's will when a woman gets pregnant from rape. Not everything that happens is God's will, sometimes things happen that aren't His will.
    Absolutely. I agree.

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    re: Indiana Republican: When life begins from rape, "God intended" it [W:266]

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    One of the worst, most dismissive things a person can say to another person after they experience a trauma of some sort is anything along the lines of "everything happens for a reason".
    Never said it was a smart, helpful, appropriate, tactful, or intelligent thing to say. On hte contrary, I've said the opposite NUMEROUS times in this thread.

    I'm simply arguing against the notion that it's "Disgusting" and to a lesser extent that it's "unreasonable".

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    re: Indiana Republican: When life begins from rape, "God intended" it [W:266]

    Can I ask why anyone would argue the fine points of christian dogma on a thread about the POV of a man seeking to be elected? This is not a theocracy; I'm not christian.

    Why do I have to surrender my reproductive rights just to comfort some MAN I never met in Indiana?

    The hypocrisy here is just stunning.

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    re: Indiana Republican: When life begins from rape, "God intended" it [W:266]

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    NOthing partisanly moronic about it. The Republicans have a problem with women and their right to control their own bodies. That's not even disputed any more.
    Regardess of what the preceding post was, this is moronic...

    A) Conservatives don't hate ("have a problem with") women.

    B) What does the right to control your own body have to do with being able to legally get away with killing another human being and destroying their body, as is the case in abortion? If you support this right to control your own body as a paramount value, then neither the GOP nor the Soci... *cough* Democrats should be getting your vote. The Obama administration has been exceedingly hostile to states relaxing on drug policy... Indeed busybody liberals are behind local-level legislation about happy meals and big sodas... that's "controlling your own body." Whether or not you should be allowed to kill someone else, yeah, not so much.

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    re: Indiana Republican: When life begins from rape, "God intended" it [W:266]

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    Indiana Republican: When life begins from rape, God intended it | Reuters



    Honestly, I think it is a reasonable and somewhat consistent position, although I don't agree with it. From the standpoint of someone trying to get elected in a close race with an unusually strong Libertarian candidate to splinter the Republican vote, it was just a stupid thing to say though. If it plays anything like Todd Akin's comment did, Joe Donnelly will take the senate seat from the Republicans in Indiana. I'd pretty much given up hope for the Republicans to take the senate this year anyway. Things looking very good for the GOP in 2014 though.
    Obviously this is a monumentally stupid thing for a politician to say, but it is an internally consistent position. If one believes in the existence of an omnipotent and omniscient deity, everything that happens must be his will. Of course if that's the case, it's hard to avoid the conclusion that God's kind of an asshole.

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    re: Indiana Republican: When life begins from rape, "God intended" it [W:266]

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    It ABSOLUTELY is the platform of the GOP. The GOP platform calls for no exceptions. Period.
    No, it's not. Quote for us - here's the 2012 GOP platform. I'm sure it's in the platform the opposition invented to characterize the GOP platform (parrotted as truth by every partisan out there), but be honest, you've never even read the actual GOP platform have you?

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    re: Indiana Republican: When life begins from rape, "God intended" it [W:266]

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    But in both cases, the life or death occurred as a direct result of human action. Humans sometimes take actions that are not willed by God, thus the existence of sin. I can't philosophically imagine that God wills the result of the action, but not the action.
    I think Mourdock could respond that God doesn't will the result of the action until after the action has been done. He doesnt will the rape itself, but after it has been performed he believes that creating a child is the best thing to do. Again, it isn't my belief, but it seems logical if you believe life can only come from God.

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    re: Indiana Republican: When life begins from rape, "God intended" it [W:266]

    Quote Originally Posted by Pinkie View Post
    Can I ask why anyone would argue the fine points of christian dogma on a thread about the POV of a man seeking to be elected? This is not a theocracy; I'm not christian.

    Why do I have to surrender my reproductive rights just to comfort some MAN I never met in Indiana?

    The hypocrisy here is just stunning.
    It's more philosophical than dogmatic. It's kind of nice to be able to disagree without it devolving into "Well, you're just a socialist pig." I'm very happy when some people can stay adult about the whole thing.


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    This issue has been plowed more times than Paris Hilton.
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    Too bad we have to observe human rights.

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    re: Indiana Republican: When life begins from rape, "God intended" it [W:266]

    Quote Originally Posted by Pinkie View Post
    Can I ask why anyone would argue the fine points of christian dogma on a thread about the POV of a man seeking to be elected? This is not a theocracy; I'm not christian.

    Why do I have to surrender my reproductive rights just to comfort some MAN I never met in Indiana?

    The hypocrisy here is just stunning.
    You wouldn't and don't have to. One person doesn't decide that, not even one senator. Takes a super-majority typically to decide such matters and even then the POTUS has to sign off AND the courts have to give it the pass.

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    re: Indiana Republican: When life begins from rape, "God intended" it [W:266]

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    You wouldn't and don't have to. One person doesn't decide that, not even one senator. Takes a super-majority typically to decide such matters and even then the POTUS has to sign off AND the courts have to give it the pass.
    Right now, there's a line the legislature cannot pass. If Romney is elected, he'll pack the Supreme Court and women may well lose their reproductive rights.

    Remember to VOTE, ladies and those who love them.

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