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    re: Indiana Republican: When life begins from rape, "God intended" it [W:266]

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    But if God willed the creation of this life through rape, isn't He condoning it on some level?
    Not necessarily. I don't see why God couldn't make something good come out of it, even if he didn't intend for or want the rape to happen.
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    re: Indiana Republican: When life begins from rape, "God intended" it [W:266]

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    NOthing partisanly moronic about it. The Republicans have a problem with women and their right to control their own bodies. That's not even disputed any more.
    That's not what was claimed and you know it. But this new moving of the goalposts claim, also "partisanly moronic". The republicans have an anti-abortion platform. You and the opposition choose to characterize it with memes that are one-sided and absurd to those who don't buy into your particular bias. Same as some extreme republican partisan who characterizes the democrat platform as pro-murder and having a problem with children being born.

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    re: Indiana Republican: When life begins from rape, "God intended" it [W:266]

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Well, it's not the platform of ANY party and it's just moronic partisan play to suggest it is. That said, I can't believe this is a US senate candidate. I mean, over the decades I've come to expect the occaisonal candidate for the US house will go off the rails and say something stupid in front of a national audience, but the senate candidates are typically a little better minded than this. After all, senate candidates know they'll be representing the whole state, not just one district.
    It ABSOLUTELY is the platform of the GOP. The GOP platform calls for no exceptions. Period.
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    re: Indiana Republican: When life begins from rape, "God intended" it [W:266]

    Woah guys. Way to much goin on here. And you fail to see anything straight. Bad things happen to people. Why? Because things happen. People make bad choices.
    I said earlier that God's intentions doesn't matter to us and that we need to obey his commands. One of you said we don't need to live by those. Well first of all most people think the bible is full of DON'T DOs. Don't do this. Don't do that. Rather they are warnings for what can happen to you if you do do them. God is trying to protect us here. Lets stay basic though because I know many of you don't know the bible. 10 commandments. VERY BASIC. If everyone in America lived by those. Do you think we would have a better country? Don't kill, don't steal, don't lie, don't covet, obey your parents etc. If you disagree then I this is just more personal reasoning that you don't want to believe in God and not having real logic.

    They are going to happen whether you want them to or not. If you fail to see what good comes out of something bad thats your own fault.

    I ran from the police once and spent 6 days in jail. My mistake, my consequence. That is a bad choice that led to a bad result. But actually I met some amazing people in jail, one I actually invited to church with me when he got out and he really did hit me up. I also learned why I never want to do wrong again to return to jail. So you have a choice. To look at everything negative. Or you can see what good came out of your situation.

    I see a lot of you talking about morality and what not. I don't see any of you talking about the soliders who go on the front lines for civilians to basically be sacrificed for you to live in peace. But since that directly benefits you, its ok. Throwing them to the dogs is ok right? Cus thats what they as military signed up for. To die.

    One thing I love about the Bible is how scary it is as much as it is amazing. The bible says God takes no pleasure in the suffering of others. But he is a just and fair God.

    Choose whatever you want to believe. It's not my job to make you believe but rather lay it out infront of you so you can't say no one told you when you are before God. Every tongue will confess and every knee will bow. Oh how I love this. God get's the last word. I guess the only way to find out, is to die. See you on the other side!!

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    re: Indiana Republican: When life begins from rape, "God intended" it [W:266]

    Quote Originally Posted by Anagram View Post
    Not necessarily. I don't see why God couldn't make something good come out of it, even if he didn't intend for or want the rape to happen.
    So God sees the rape happening and figures "Well, I wasn't going to make this chick pregnant, but now I might as well?"

    Take it from the other end of life. Say a person is murdered. Are you saying that God didn't will the murder, but did will the death of the victim?


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    re: Indiana Republican: When life begins from rape, "God intended" it [W:266]

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    So God sees the rape happening and figures "Well, I wasn't going to make this chick pregnant, but now I might as well?"

    Take it from the other end of life. Say a person is murdered. Are you saying that God didn't will the murder, but did will the death of the victim?
    You have things mixed up. This happens everyday and its happening right now. God doesn't want bad things to happen to people. God doesn't make chicks pregnant. A man who has sex with her does. God gives everyone free will. If you choose to kill, that doesn't mean the victim was meant to die. YOU decided that. Not God.

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    re: Indiana Republican: When life begins from rape, "God intended" it [W:266]

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    So God sees the rape happening and figures "Well, I wasn't going to make this chick pregnant, but now I might as well?"

    Take it from the other end of life. Say a person is murdered. Are you saying that God didn't will the murder, but did will the death of the victim?
    Well I don't think the mind of God works anything like that, but yeah I guess something like that.

    For your other question I don't think Mourdock believes that only God creates death. I do think he believes that only god can create life.

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    re: Indiana Republican: When life begins from rape, "God intended" it [W:266]

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    I have to say I find this interesting. The guy is just sitting there doing nothing and you think that you have the right to shoot and kill him.
    He is in my home unbidden. His very presence is a violation.

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    So God sees the rape happening and figures "Well, I wasn't going to make this chick pregnant, but now I might as well?"
    "I'm sorry that piece of **** did that to you. Here's a baby to make up for it."

    Which is exactly how many women come to terms with making the decision to keep that child. It doesn't matter how a woman gets a baby; it only matters whether or not she wants the baby. If the child is wanted, it is the silver lining to a very dark and ugly cloud.

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    re: Indiana Republican: When life begins from rape, "God intended" it [W:266]

    Quote Originally Posted by varium103 View Post
    You have things mixed up. This happens everyday and its happening right now. God doesn't want bad things to happen to people. God doesn't make chicks pregnant. A man who has sex with her does. God gives everyone free will. If you choose to kill, that doesn't mean the victim was meant to die. YOU decided that. Not God.
    That's what I think, which is why I don't see it as God's will when a woman gets pregnant from rape. Not everything that happens is God's will, sometimes things happen that aren't His will.


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    re: Indiana Republican: When life begins from rape, "God intended" it [W:266]

    Quote Originally Posted by Anagram View Post
    Well I don't think the mind of God works anything like that, but yeah I guess something like that.

    For your other question I don't think Mourdock believes that only God creates death. I do think he believes that only god can create life.
    But in both cases, the life or death occurred as a direct result of human action. Humans sometimes take actions that are not willed by God, thus the existence of sin. I can't philosophically imagine that God wills the result of the action, but not the action.


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