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    re: Indiana Republican: When life begins from rape, "God intended" it [W:266]

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    The man running for congress wants to make abortion illegal, even in cases of rape. That is disgusting.
    That is the disgusting part. Religious platitudes offered consistently, in my view very wrongly, are one thing. Using them in governance to establish laws, is another matter altogether. "God's will" or "it's a gift from God" are not justification for the government to make abortion illegal.

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    re: Indiana Republican: When life begins from rape, "God intended" it [W:266]

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Hey Romney supports this guy.. if he wins, then it must mean that abortion will be banned since that is what this moron and Romney want.
    I think you need to do a better job of keeping up with the news. Romney denounced this guys statements.
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    re: Indiana Republican: When life begins from rape, "God intended" it [W:266]

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    I take it you haven't read the Republican Party platform.
    You quote me where the party platform is "The Bitch Deserved It" and I'll change my screen name and icon to anything you want for the next year.

    Otherwise...as I said, it's pure and unquestionable partisan hyperbole being applied to an entire party over stupid comments (that still don't make such a statement) by a small handful of the parties members.

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    re: Indiana Republican: When life begins from rape, "God intended" it [W:266]

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Both of your posts basically completely miss my point and zero in on the other portion.

    I'm not suggesting Rape and Losing a Job are comparable traumatic events (they both are traumatic events, no they're not on a similar level).

    What I'm suggesting is that the general mindset of "Life progresses according to God's Will, and if something bad happens one should seek to find what good they can in the outcome and trust thta God's Will shall lead you in the right direction" is not "disgusting" or "unreasonable".

    I SPECIFICALLY made a situation where the bad thing was not as bad as the example in this thread, to highlight exactly what you two have shown...that the issue is not the idea, the issue is your emotional response to the idea being applied consistently even in cases where it may be more painful to accept.
    On the contrary. I understand the intellectual underpinnings very well. What I am stating is that that intellectual system ought not to be defended under every case, including this one.
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    re: Indiana Republican: When life begins from rape, "God intended" it [W:266]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    I don't see how it's a reasonable comment, Anagram.
    Well I see it as Mourdock believing that life can only come from God. If you believe that, it seems pretty consistent and reasonable to conclude that pregnancy from rape also comes from God. I don't agree with it certainly, but it seems like a consistent viewpoint from him.
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    re: Indiana Republican: When life begins from rape, "God intended" it [W:266]

    Quote Originally Posted by Anagram View Post
    Well I see it as Mourdock believing that life can only come from God. If you believe that, it seems pretty consistent and reasonable to conclude that pregnancy from rape also comes from God. I don't agree with it certainly, but it seems like a consistent viewpoint from him.
    But it doesn't demonstrate good sense. It may be consistent, but it is not sensible.
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    re: Indiana Republican: When life begins from rape, "God intended" it [W:266]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    But it doesn't demonstrate good sense. It may be consistent, but it is not sensible.
    Well I agree, it wasn't sensible. But I do think considering his beliefs the view is reasonable and consistent, which is better than what some have.
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    Indiana Republican: When life begins from rape, "God intended" it

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    Well I agree, it wasn't sensible. But I do think considering his beliefs the view is reasonable and consistent, which is better than what some have.
    That in of itself is not virtuous. For him it is reasonable, for everyone/anyone else, who he is essentially speaking for-it is the opposite of reasonable. It has to demonstrate sensibility in order for it to be so.
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    re: Indiana Republican: When life begins from rape, "God intended" it [W:266]

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Both of your posts basically completely miss my point and zero in on the other portion.

    I'm not suggesting Rape and Losing a Job are comparable traumatic events (they both are traumatic events, no they're not on a similar level).

    What I'm suggesting is that the general mindset of "Life progresses according to God's Will, and if something bad happens one should seek to find what good they can in the outcome and trust thta God's Will shall lead you in the right direction" is not "disgusting" or "unreasonable".

    I SPECIFICALLY made a situation where the bad thing was not as bad as the example in this thread, to highlight exactly what you two have shown...that the issue is not the idea, the issue is your emotional response to the idea being applied consistently even in cases where it may be more painful to accept.
    One of the worst, most dismissive things a person can say to another person after they experience a trauma of some sort is anything along the lines of "everything happens for a reason".

    It undermines the person's pain and seeks to stop them from processing their trauma/tragedy in their own way.

    Sure, the person who says it might mean well by it, but ultimately they say it more to alleviate their own discomfort with the other person's pain than they say it to actually alleviate the person's pain.

    While I wouldn't call it disgusting or unreasonable, I would always call it the inappropriate response to another person's misfortune. A person cannot help someone else if they are not strong enough to handle their pain with them. Doesn't matter where the pain comes from.
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