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    Gay GOP group hesitantly backs Romney

    Gay GOP group hesitantly backs Romney - Yahoo! News

    Stonewall Democrats, a national gay group backing Obama, called the decision by Log Cabin Republicans shameful and insulting. "This is politics at its worst — when a community sells out its own people for the gain of a few individuals," Jerame Davis, the group's executive director, said in a statement.


    The last-minute endorsement by the Republican group reflected persistent tensions among gay conservatives about what role to play within a party still largely opposed to many of the broader gay community's priorities. Another gay Republican group, GOProud, in June said it would "enthusiastically endorse" Romney and pledged to "commit significant resources" to electing him.
    Not sure where I stand on this. On one hand, some people don't find gay rights (or well, just rights) in general. On the other, this feels like black people arguing that Jim Crow rights weren't all that important. However I looked up GOProud and found this:

    "We founded GOProud to provide an unapologetic voice for gay conservatives and their straight allies. Since 2009, we have challenged conventional wisdom, smashed stereotypes and fought like hell for what we believe in."

    ...It feels "odd" to call people allies when they're actively working to deem your relationships as wrong and unworthy of the same societal and cultural benefits their unions get.
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    Re: Gay GOP group hesitantly backs Romney

    How dare they not be one issue voters. I bet they're not even artistic.

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    Re: Gay GOP group hesitantly backs Romney

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    How dare they not be one issue voters. I bet they're not even artistic.
    Oh what nonsense. As if gay rights means "one issue". It's actually a number of issues. The first and most important is the second recognition people are trying to place on them.
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    Re: Gay GOP group hesitantly backs Romney

    Gay Republicans are still Republicans. Gay people have no inherent immunity to absurdly over-simplified beliefs or belief in myths like the iphone-toting welfare queen.
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    Re: Gay GOP group hesitantly backs Romney

    sounds like they endorsed him for reason beyond LGBT issues.... and well, nothing really wrong with that I suppose,as there actually are more issues that LGBT issues.

    they should have endorsed Gary Johnson... But I suppose, as many folks tend to do, they wanted to stick with someone who had a chance at winning.

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    Re: Gay GOP group hesitantly backs Romney

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Oh what nonsense. As if gay rights means "one issue". It's actually a number of issues.
    Maybe they're neocons.

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    Re: Gay GOP group hesitantly backs Romney

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    Gay GOP group hesitantly backs Romney - Yahoo! News



    Not sure where I stand on this. On one hand, some people don't find gay rights (or well, just rights) in general. On the other, this feels like black people arguing that Jim Crow rights weren't all that important. However I looked up GOProud and found this:

    "We founded GOProud to provide an unapologetic voice for gay conservatives and their straight allies. Since 2009, we have challenged conventional wisdom, smashed stereotypes and fought like hell for what we believe in."

    ...It feels "odd" to call people allies when they're actively working to deem your relationships as wrong and unworthy of the same societal and cultural benefits their unions get.
    So your saying that all gays have to vote one way on one issue and that nothing else can be important but marriage to them or more important than that......your selling them way to short and trying to stick them in a small box.

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    Re: Gay GOP group hesitantly backs Romney

    In fairness, most upcoming issues dealing with gay rights are probably going to be handled by the states or the courts. Obama called for the Repeal of Don't Ask Don't Tell, but that was a no-brainer for him. Allowing gays to serve is more popular than gay marriage and the military itself said that the policy could be repealed. Something like the repeal of DOMA or the introduction of a constitutional amendment banning gay marriage is unlikely regardless of who becomes President. I'm not saying that gay rights are not an important issue or that Romney is as gay-friendly as Obama, but in terms of actual, substantive policy that is likely to come out of either administration there probably won't be too much difference unless public opinion really changes in the next few years.

    Edit: I could very well be wrong, and the President could choose to really push the issue, but there isn't much right now indicating that they would do so. However, it is still a reasonable position to hold, and one can honestly believe it when deciding who to vote for. The American people, including homosexuals, have many concerns about the country. Gay rights is one issue, and people should not be put into a box.
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    Re: Gay GOP group hesitantly backs Romney

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    Not sure where I stand on this. On one hand, some people don't find gay rights (or well, just rights) in general. On the other, this feels like black people arguing that Jim Crow rights weren't all that important. However I looked up GOProud and found this:

    "We founded GOProud to provide an unapologetic voice for gay conservatives and their straight allies. Since 2009, we have challenged conventional wisdom, smashed stereotypes and fought like hell for what we believe in."

    ...It feels "odd" to call people allies when they're actively working to deem your relationships as wrong and unworthy of the same societal and cultural benefits their unions get.
    So then should pro-life Democrats not vote for Obama? Voting along 1 single issue isn't very rational in my opinion.
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    Re: Gay GOP group hesitantly backs Romney

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Gay Republicans are still Republicans. Gay people have no inherent immunity to absurdly over-simplified beliefs or belief in myths like the iphone-toting welfare queen.
    or the idea that people who disagree with you are all simple-minded oafs.
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