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    Re: Gay GOP group hesitantly backs Romney

    Quote Originally Posted by Sherman123 View Post
    They do, and what Jimmy and Chris will both say is that realistically they think the chances, absent a major supreme court victory, of getting gay marriage legitimized by the federal government and by a majority of states is low for the near future. Whereas entitlements that are privatized put options back into their hands that they do not need federal recognition for as far as healthcare and income security are concerned for them and their spouses.
    Whaaaaaa? Jimmy and Chris sound like idiots.
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    Re: Gay GOP group hesitantly backs Romney

    If the courts are moving ahead of Obama whose support of SSM is a tepid election year conversion, I can see why they might see their ends not dependent on Obama as the means. I know a few gay republicans. They own small businesses and are more worried about their income than their marital status right now IMO.

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    Re: Gay GOP group hesitantly backs Romney

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Whaaaaaa? Jimmy and Chris sound like idiots.
    They aren't, and Chris in particular is a very interesting guy. Though I think he endorsed Gary Johnson this time around, while Jimmy I think, and I'm not sure if I remember correctly, but I believe he endorsed Romney. One of the points that they make which I found interesting, and I think Chris makes it more often, is that they are remarkably well received at conservative functions all across the country and that one of the points that they always have raised by people is that they don't match their impression of what gays are like. The idea being that opposition to homosexuality and SSM in many communities and circles is fomented by an aversion to the cultural image and narrative that has been portrayed to them. Chris is quick to claim that this is the result of deep stream of radicalism and leftism and the manifestations of associated behavior within the overt gay community that obscure the majority who look like everyone else and wear a suit and tie to work every day.

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    Re: Gay GOP group hesitantly backs Romney

    I want to know why any gay person would be Republican. It's kind of like African Americans for the KKK.

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    Re: Gay GOP group hesitantly backs Romney

    Quote Originally Posted by Luna Tick View Post
    I want to know why any gay person would be Republican. It's kind of like African Americans for the KKK.
    Or like a pro-life citizen being a Democrat? Not a perfect analogy I know, but the point is illustrated I think. It is generally made up of people who identify strongly with the other 98% of the Republican platform that does not have to do with SSM. Obviously in this case the 2% of contention is integral to their identities and thus a major issue, but it pales in comparison for many to the wider issues at stake for the country.

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    Re: Gay GOP group hesitantly backs Romney

    Quote Originally Posted by Luna Tick View Post
    I want to know why any gay person would be Republican. It's kind of like African Americans for the KKK.
    For ****s sakes....really?

    Republicans = KKK?

    Yeah...I remember going to that GOP Convention the other year. We rounded us up some homo's and strung'em up in a tree before we had the floor vote for our new platform plank.



    Yes...a gay person couldn't possibly actually give a damn about limited government power, reduced federal spending, reduction in government intrusion into the private sector, strong defense, and other traditionally Republican stereotypes.

    No...no, they must vote and care only about "Gay Rights" issues and THAT'S IT.

    This kind of ridiculous stereotyping done in this thread, if it was done coming from the other side about homosexuals, would have cries of "HOMOPHOBES!" being shouted to the heavens...but somehow it's prefectly reasonable to assume every gay person must care about the same things politically to the same degree.

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    Re: Gay GOP group hesitantly backs Romney

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    For ****s sakes....really?

    Republicans = KKK?

    Yeah...I remember going to that GOP Convention the other year. We rounded us up some homo's and strung'em up in a tree before we had the floor vote for our new platform plank.



    Yes...a gay person couldn't possibly actually give a damn about limited government power, reduced federal spending, reduction in government intrusion into the private sector, strong defense, and other traditionally Republican stereotypes.

    No...no, they must vote and care only about "Gay Rights" issues and THAT'S IT.

    This kind of ridiculous stereotyping done in this thread, if it was done coming from the other side about homosexuals, would have cries of "HOMOPHOBES!" being shouted to the heavens...but somehow it's prefectly reasonable to assume every gay person must care about the same things politically to the same degree.
    Republicans don't lynch people, at least not yet, but they're every bit as bigoted as the KKK and the Nazi Party. History is repeating itself. We're in a time period similar to Germany in the 1920s when economic times were tough and people turned to extremism. The Republican Party is not the conservative party. We've seen a shift that started with Reagan and got more extreme with each Republican president after that. Republicans believe someone who can't afford health care deserves to die. That's a fascist position. Republicans are corporate owned by the Koch Brothers. Hitler was owned by the wealthy industrialists in Germany. Republicans start unnecessary wars and then appeal to vitriolic patriotism when anyone questions them. Republicans use scapegoating to get votes. Gays, liberals, socialists are all people irrationally vilified by the Republicans, just like Hitler did of the Jews and the communists.

    The political breakdown of the United States is as follows: The Democrats are the conservative party. They're about where the Republicans were in the 70s before they turned extreme. The Republicans are the fascists, and the Greens are the liberals (but are nearly non-existent). That's why this election is so important. We must not just re-elect Obama. We must completely destroy the Republican Party. It's evil. If you support it, you're supporting evil and the destruction of the United States because we'll end up in a war with Iran that turns into World War III. Anyone who votes Republican is betraying his country. I know you don't like hearing the truth, but this is the truth.

    The political re-alignment that could save the country would be if the Republicans were completely wiped out and Congress were made up of Democrats and Greens.

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    Re: Gay GOP group hesitantly backs Romney

    Quote Originally Posted by Luna Tick View Post
    Republicans don't lynch people, at least not yet, but they're every bit as bigoted as the KKK and the Nazi Party. History is repeating itself. We're in a time period similar to Germany in the 1920s when economic times were tough and people turned to extremism. The Republican Party is not the conservative party. We've seen a shift that started with Reagan and got more extreme with each Republican president after that. Republicans believe someone who can't afford health care deserves to die. That's a fascist position. Republicans are corporate owned by the Koch Brothers. Hitler was owned by the wealthy industrialists in Germany. Republicans start unnecessary wars and then appeal to vitriolic patriotism when anyone questions them. Republicans use scapegoating to get votes. Gays, liberals, socialists are all people irrationally vilified by the Republicans, just like Hitler did of the Jews and the communists.

    The political breakdown of the United States is as follows: The Democrats are the conservative party. They're about where the Republicans were in the 70s before they turned extreme. The Republicans are the fascists, and the Greens are the liberals (but are nearly non-existent). That's why this election is so important. We must not just re-elect Obama. We must completely destroy the Republican Party. It's evil. If you support it, you're supporting evil and the destruction of the United States because we'll end up in a war with Iran that turns into World War III. Anyone who votes Republican is betraying his country. I know you don't like hearing the truth, but this is the truth.

    The political re-alignment that could save the country would be if the Republicans were completely wiped out and Congress were made up of Democrats and Greens.
    What a distorted sense of the political landscape.
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    Re: Gay GOP group hesitantly backs Romney

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    What a distorted sense of the political landscape.
    That's what they would have said in Germany in the 1920s. This is reality. I have a degree in German and know that country's history inside and out. We're seeing the same thing happen here that happened there. If you don't think it can happen here, think again. Republicans meet the definition of fascist in every way. Here's a link that explains why:

    Are Republicans Fascists

    People thought Hitler was just a super patriot. They would have thought it absurd if they had been told the truth about his evil. Someone has to tell the truth about Republican evil now so that history doesn't repeat itself.

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    Re: Gay GOP group hesitantly backs Romney

    Quote Originally Posted by Luna Tick View Post
    That's what they would have said in Germany in the 1920s. This is reality. I have a degree in German and know that country's history inside and out. We're seeing the same thing happen here that happened there. If you don't think it can happen here, think again. Republicans meet the definition of fascist in every way. Here's a link that explains why:

    Are Republicans Fascists

    People thought Hitler was just a super patriot. They would have thought it absurd if they had been told the truth about his evil. Someone has to tell the truth about Republican evil now so that history doesn't repeat itself.
    This is what happens when bad political science meets up with bad historical methodology, and a tinge of the eccentric.
    Michael J Petrilli-"Is School Choice Enough?"-A response to the recent timidity of American conservatives toward education reform. https://nationalaffairs.com/publicat...-choice-enough

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