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    Re: NYPD paid informant to 'bait' Muslims

    Quote Originally Posted by katsung47 View Post
    That's how so said law enforcement force to make living on created "terror case".
    This is wrong.Its one thing to leave a bait car to nab car thieves or to ask a known drug dealer for drugs and buy drugs from him and its another thing to egg on or entice someone to do something they normally wouldn't do.
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    Re: NYPD paid informant to 'bait' Muslims

    Quote Originally Posted by spanky View Post
    If this was the police infiltrating militia groups, gun shows or Christian Identity groups, I got a suspicion many on this thread would approve.

    If they had a few in Jonestown they could have saved 800 people.
    Or maybe you would be outraged if it were a Christian group and are strangely OK with baiting Muslims? Hypothetical hypocrisy is a fun game!
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: NYPD paid informant to 'bait' Muslims

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Or maybe you would be outraged if it were a Christian group and are strangely OK with baiting Muslims? Hypothetical hypocrisy is a fun game!
    I'm okay with baiting them all.

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    Re: NYPD paid informant to 'bait' Muslims

    Quote Originally Posted by spanky View Post
    I'm okay with baiting them all.
    No, if you get to make up what we think, we get to make up what you think. You therefore believe that only Christians should be exempt from this. Also you believe the Star Wars prequel trilogy was better than the original.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: NYPD paid informant to 'bait' Muslims

    Stings and inducement to crime is very poor law enforcement and should be forbidden except in special circumstances.

    With so many victimless crimes created by poor legislation, it induces the cops into such behavior.

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    Re: NYPD paid informant to 'bait' Muslims

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    No, if you get to make up what we think, we get to make up what you think. You therefore believe that only Christians should be exempt from this. Also you believe the Star Wars prequel trilogy was better than the original.
    Again, I'm okay with baiting them all.

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    Re: NYPD paid informant to 'bait' Muslims

    Quote Originally Posted by spanky View Post
    Again, I'm okay with baiting them all.
    Are you one of that team members?

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    Re: NYPD paid informant to 'bait' Muslims

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    Wow. That's pretty crappy of law enforcement. It's one thing to build a legitimate case and do a sting operation, but this is just damn low.
    This crap has been staged since 9/11, and broadcast on CNN to bolster their fear campaign.

    Terror Alert Level : Blue

    Does that color mean "stay vigilant" or "snitch on your neighbors"?

    Its 1984 all over again.
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    Re: NYPD paid informant to 'bait' Muslims

    Quote Originally Posted by spanky View Post
    Again, I'm okay with baiting them all.
    You made up what other people believe, but it's not ok to do that to you? Nice.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: NYPD paid informant to 'bait' Muslims

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    I try to take this approach: If they willingly do this to Muslims, what reason would there be to think they wouldn't do the same to anyone else? I frankly find it disgusting that people in power would do this to anyone, without legitimate cause. Just because someone is Muslim, and we are opposed to Muslim jihadist activity, it is no justification to set them up and entrap them, when they have not demonstrated a history of illegal activity. This kind of crap just fuels the fire on several sides of the issue. We are supposed to be a nation of laws, and innocent until proven guilty, not assumed to be guilty, then set up for a fall.
    Intent and actual ability are two different things.

    The FBI has been providing "ability" to knuckleheads who most likely would have been limited to talking **** on the internet on their own.

    They should be posing as knucklebeads themselves to draw out ACTUAL jihadists with actual abilities.

    But that would require actual police work.

    Manufacturing crimes makes busts MUCH easier.
    Anyone wondering what I'm talking about start here:
    The Psychology of Persuasion

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