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    Re: NYPD paid informant to 'bait' Muslims

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    I think so. Its important to determine to what lengths a person would have gone had they actually been able to commit the crime. In theory the Judge would keep enforcement from abusing it.
    MMmmm, yes that judge. Because the government hasn't subverted that step....oh wait.
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    Re: NYPD paid informant to 'bait' Muslims

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    MMmmm, yes that judge. Because the government hasn't subverted that step....oh wait.
    Properly phrased laws would remedy that. Make it a panel. Make the burden higher.
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    Re: NYPD paid informant to 'bait' Muslims

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    Properly phrased laws would remedy that. Make it a panel. Make the burden higher.
    Removing laws, such as the Patriot Act, would remedy it. But that's not the way the government likes it, and they don't tend to give up power they've abdicated. Which is why entrapment needs to remain illegal in total. Not only that, but we should start to enforce this again.
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    Re: NYPD paid informant to 'bait' Muslims

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Glad we're so vigilant against entrapment. I wonder how many other cases have come down to actual entrapment.
    A lot of them Ikari, a lot (The Corbett Report | Corbett Report Radio 197 – American Terror Created by the FBI)

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    Re: NYPD paid informant to 'bait' Muslims

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    I try to take this approach: If they willingly do this to Muslims, what reason would there be to think they wouldn't do the same to anyone else? .....
    They do do it to other people. Criminal law is full of entrapment cases and they began well before 9/11.

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    Re: NYPD paid informant to 'bait' Muslims

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Removing laws, such as the Patriot Act, would remedy it. But that's not the way the government likes it, and they don't tend to give up power they've abdicated. Which is why entrapment needs to remain illegal in total. Not only that, but we should start to enforce this again.
    Yeah, I'm not a fan of the Patriot Act. I still believe there can be a proper and fair way to intervene. And I think throwing someone in jail for a few years because you 'caught' them early, only to release them so they can accomplish something later is not very prudent. I believe there can be a fair 'due process' to these situations that allow us to measure their capability of mass murder and take that into account when sentencing them. Even if approached from a rehabilitation perspective we need to know someones potential in order to understand what is needed to help. Otherwise you don't treat properly and the same, you release someone to just accomplish what they are capable of later.
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    Re: NYPD paid informant to 'bait' Muslims

    Just like the DEA was baiting John DeLorean all those years ago, now NYPD is baiting muslims. And of course, so does the FBI bait muslims.

    A very sad situation for US law enforcement. A pathetic display of loss of moral compass by the US authorities.

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    Re: NYPD paid informant to 'bait' Muslims

    How many times a month does the NYPD end up on here for misuse of their officers? That needs to be cleaned up.
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    Re: NYPD paid informant to 'bait' Muslims

    If this was the police infiltrating militia groups, gun shows or Christian Identity groups, I got a suspicion many on this thread would approve.

    If they had a few in Jonestown they could have saved 800 people.

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    Re: NYPD paid informant to 'bait' Muslims

    Great idea! Always beneficial to flush out and expose the enemies of the United States. Muslims should not be allowed in this country, they are our sworn enemies and they've already killed 3,000 Americans on our own soil. Kudos to the NYPD!

    Always a good idea to be aware that once you kill a huge number of police, it's not going to do you much good to whine about the police watching you later.

    Note to the loons: "Baiting" is not entrapment.

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