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    With 60,000 dead, Mexicans wonder why drug war doesn't rate in presidential debate

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    Much of Latin America was dismayed that they got only a glancing mention inRomney and Obama's final presidential debate.
    By Sara Miller Llana | Christian Science Monitor – 10/23/2012

    That means no candidate talked about the drug trade, despite historicviolence playing out in Mexico, much of it along the 2,000-mile border that theUS shares.

    http://news.yahoo.com/60-000-dead-me...141857504.html
    Because they make living on this.

    DEA makes living on drug case. FBI makes living on terror case.Without these cases, they lose value to exist. So if there is none, they createone.

    Toexpand their power, DEA invented "War on drugs"; FBI and Pentagon invented "War on Terror". Under those two wars, drug business andterror activities become prosperous. So are the DEA, FBI and Pentagon. They gotfat budget and expanded power - Patriot Act and NDAA.

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    Re: With 60,000 dead, Mexicans wonder why drug war doesn't rate in presidential debat

    More than "make a living" on the drug prohibition, their very existence depends upon the drug prohibition, at least for the DEA.

    So too, the prison systems, private and public. Without the drug prohibition, our prisons would be only about half full.

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    I have never understood why we do not do more with Mexico, and why the people of Mexico do not stand up to this on their own. I wouldn't mind it if we started scrambling jets out of Texas to bomb Mexican drug facilities. Our passive interest in the plight of those living on the border is really embarrassing.

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    Re: With 60,000 dead, Mexicans wonder why drug war doesn't rate in presidential debat

    It's not a topic they want to discuss since both sides agree on this one, they don't want people knowing it's a problem (and many are able to live under the delusion that it's not a problem), they don't want to act as if they have any control over it. All their buddy's are making money on the War on Drugs and they aim to keep it that way.
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    Re: With 60,000 dead, Mexicans wonder why drug war doesn't rate in presidential debat

    It seems like a large part of them want to come up here anyways. Might as well just annex them.

    Redirect the resources to cleaning up the gangs. I imagine if we put more officers on the street, in the places that really need it, we would have no problem. Clean up Mexico at the same time. Get a much smaller southern border to defend.
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    Re: With 60,000 dead, Mexicans wonder why drug war doesn't rate in presidential debat

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    I have never understood why we do not do more with Mexico, and why the people of Mexico do not stand up to this on their own. I wouldn't mind it if we started scrambling jets out of Texas to bomb Mexican drug facilities. Our passive interest in the plight of those living on the border is really embarrassing.
    If we drop bombs on the production facilities, we MIGHT stop production, which would be devastating to a great deal of high paying government jobs here in the US.


    Think about it. Less drugs making it into the country means less cops employed specifically to bust drug dealers. Less drug dealers and users busted means considerably less prison staff. Drug enforcement is a billion dollar a year industry. Average DEA officer makes just over 55k a year. Average prison guard, 45K. Typical cop, if they've been in the force for a few years, is making between 45-60K, depending on state. Then there are all the outfitters of these people...less cops = less guns and tasers, etc. Fewer patrol cars. So on and so forth.
    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Reports indicate that everyone knew he was hauling a bunch of guns up there. But, since you brought it up, there's something which should be illegal: guns that breakdown.

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    Re: With 60,000 dead, Mexicans wonder why drug war doesn't rate in presidential debat

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    If we drop bombs on the production facilities, we MIGHT stop production, which would be devastating to a great deal of high paying government jobs here in the US.


    Think about it. Less drugs making it into the country means less cops employed specifically to bust drug dealers. Less drug dealers and users busted means considerably less prison staff. Drug enforcement is a billion dollar a year industry. Average DEA officer makes just over 55k a year. Average prison guard, 45K. Typical cop, if they've been in the force for a few years, is making between 45-60K, depending on state. Then there are all the outfitters of these people...less cops = less guns and tasers, etc. Fewer patrol cars. So on and so forth.
    Well I am sure the detoxing addicts will find other highs or commit other crimes, so most of those jobs would be safe. It isn't as if we are lacking in meth labs here at home.

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    Re: With 60,000 dead, Mexicans wonder why drug war doesn't rate in presidential debat

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    Well I am sure the detoxing addicts will find other highs or commit other crimes, so most of those jobs would be safe. It isn't as if we are lacking in meth labs here at home.
    I don't think you understand the SCOPE of the issue, here. Look up the numbers on the amounts and types of drugs estimated to be coming in from south of the border. It's huge. Sure, we have meth labs, and we have pot growers, etc. But it's a drop in the bucket compared to what's coming from Columbia, Mexico itself, and pretty much any other country that wants to ship their goods here. It all flows in through Mexico. Well, SOME of it comes via FL...but MOST through Mexico. If we simply "got rid of that" entrance, removed ALL the foreign drug imports into this country...I'd wager fully HALF of our entire national police force could be let go...along with EASILY 3/4 of DEA. There's a LOT of people doing coke, smoking grass...that would NEVER touch **** like meth, or whatever else is getting cooked up these days, like this new bath salts crap. Get rid of all that coke and all the weed...these people are likely just gonna turn to booze, or something. Which is legal. Which means no one getting locked up for doing it, no one locked up for selling it. I'd wager fully 1/3 of all the prisons would close.

    I'm telling you, this is big business, and at the end of the day, the current bulk of law enforcement in this country NEEDS the drug trade. They'd be out of a job without it.
    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Reports indicate that everyone knew he was hauling a bunch of guns up there. But, since you brought it up, there's something which should be illegal: guns that breakdown.

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    Re: With 60,000 dead, Mexicans wonder why drug war doesn't rate in presidential debat

    Quote Originally Posted by kevinkohler View Post

    i'm telling you, this is big business, and at the end of the day, the current bulk of law enforcement in this country needs the drug trade. They'd be out of a job without it.



    Yes, it's all about money. Crime pays.

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    Quote Originally Posted by specklebang View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Reports indicate that everyone knew he was hauling a bunch of guns up there. But, since you brought it up, there's something which should be illegal: guns that breakdown.

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