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    Re: Italian scientists convicted of manslaughter for not predicting earthquake

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    I would say disagree fully, but cant.. hate defensive football.. grrrrrrrr. Good luck with City this week.. they gonna need it
    Yup, a win's the only acceptable result. Thank God we're not playing an Italian team. If we were to beat them, their coach might face prosecution for not predicting it.
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    Re: Italian scientists convicted of manslaughter for not predicting earthquake

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Yea and then they became Christians... and it went down hill from then on.
    No. They were Christians during the Renaissance. While it is true that Christianity coincided with the fall of the Roman Empire, it wasn't its cause.

    So you can thank Christianity for allowing city states to develop themselves in peace and bringing stability to the region. It is because of the great influence the Vatican had in the region that senseless, brutal wars weren't done there between nations.

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    Re: Italian scientists convicted of manslaughter for not predicting earthquake

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    Italy wasn't really at the forefront of the Enlightenment. The influence of the Vatican made it difficult and slow for the idea of reason to take a hold there. Just FYI.

    I'm quite sure Florence, Milano, Rome, Pisa and many more cities were hubs of englightenment and knowledge during that period. Italy may not have been the home to the greatest of Enlightenment thinkers, France was, but it still played a massive role. it is correct, there the Vatican had the greatest presence... so tempering Christianity with reason... bringing it into a more enlightened stage which we see today mainly in the people who follow Christianity, was a success that the italian movement had. A key player in the overall reforming of Europe into a new, better stage. It was already the best, but it could be improved.

    Although it (Roman law) influenced it, Common Law is quite distinct, and is the basis of the legal systems of around a third of all jurisdictions, including the US. So, it's a little misleading to say the The Law has been given to us by the Romans.
    I don't think it was misleading. I didn't meant to say that ALL law is given to us by the Romans, but the main principles on which the legal system and the law is based on are inherited from the Romans. You know, like everybody is equal in the face of the law, law is blind, everybody should be represented, it is not what the great unwashed say but what the court says, and the list spans into eternity.

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    Re: Italian scientists convicted of manslaughter for not predicting earthquake

    I am not saying I support this, it may go too far. But there is something to be said for holding scientists accountable for the human consequences of their actions.

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    Re: Italian scientists convicted of manslaughter for not predicting earthquake

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    Although it (Roman law) influenced it, Common Law is quite distinct, and is the basis of the legal systems of around a third of all jurisdictions, including the US. So, it's a little misleading to say the The Law has been given to us by the Romans.
    There's as much Roman Law in the Common Law as there is in Civil Law.

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    Re: Italian scientists convicted of manslaughter for not predicting earthquake

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    I am not saying I support this, it may go too far. But there is something to be said for holding scientists accountable for the human consequences of their actions.
    Human consequences of their actions? In this case their actions were not being able to predict the unpredictable. No scientist in our history has been able to consistently predict earthquakes.

    I could possibly understand if their conclusion was that there was a coming earthquake and they hid the information, but that's not even remotely the case.
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    Re: Italian scientists convicted of manslaughter for not predicting earthquake

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    Human consequences of their actions? In this case their actions were not being able to predict the unpredictable. No scientist in our history has been able to consistently predict earthquakes.

    I could possibly understand if their conclusion was that there was a coming earthquake and they hid the information, but that's not even remotely the case.
    What's with you? Did you even read my goddamn post? I basically agree with you but your rude was just makes me want to dig in and keep arguing against you out of spite. But I haven't got the time for that, so for chrissakes READ!

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    Re: Italian scientists convicted of manslaughter for not predicting earthquake

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    What's with you? Did you even read my goddamn post? I basically agree with you but your rude was just makes me want to dig in and keep arguing against you out of spite. But I haven't got the time for that, so for chrissakes READ!
    No, you didn't agree with me. You only said "I am not saying I support this, it may go too far. But there is something to be said for holding scientists accountable for the human consequences of their actions."

    None of which says you agree with me. If your statement about scientists being held accountable for the human consequences of their actions is not even remotely related to the article in the OP, then I wonder why you even posted it here.
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    I've got to say that it is shadenfreudalicious to see the rich and famous fucquewads on the coast suffering from the fires.

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    Re: Italian scientists convicted of manslaughter for not predicting earthquake

    Can I sue scientists for not correctly identifying the lottery numbers for me? Is there no end to the blame for unfortunate natural events?

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    Re: Italian scientists convicted of manslaughter for not predicting earthquake

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    No, you didn't agree with me. You only said "I am not saying I support this, it may go too far. But there is something to be said for holding scientists accountable for the human consequences of their actions."

    None of which says you agree with me. If your statement about scientists being held accountable for the human consequences of their actions is not even remotely related to the article in the OP, then I wonder why you even posted it here.
    None of it says I disagree with you, DOES IT?!

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