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    Re: U.S. Officials Say Iran Has Agreed to Nuclear Talks

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    it appears Iran wants Obama as president just as Russia does.

    Maybe they Think Obama ,will be More flexible, After the Election'''''' Hmmm, wonder why they might think that?

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    Romeny wants to help big business. Nothing like a big war to help the military industrial complex to make loads of $$$. That's exactly what Romney would do. A bloodbath.

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    Re: U.S. Officials Say Iran Has Agreed to Nuclear Talks

    Call me cynical, and this would be my claim regardless of the party in power, but this smells.

    Iran's been an issue for YEARS now and somehow, two days before a Foreign Policy debate after the challenger has been gaining momentum, and with the election less than a month away, SUDDENLY it comes out that "Talks" will happen.

    Mind you...no guarantee talks result in anything, no guarantee that what is decided upon is actually followed or not, just a statement that there will be TALKS. However, what that means is that there's essentially "hope" something good will come from it and can be played as such despite the fact that it's essentially still a giant unknown.

    The fact this just HAPPENS to come out right at this moment is ridiculous coincidental to me and makes me question the sincerity of it in terms of the talks being legitimately useful or productive in any real fashion and not an attempt by both sides to attempt and simply influence the political process that's about to be had.

    As I said, call my cynical...but sorry, something smells weird. Props for getting talks agreed to....however, the notion of having "talks" at some point in the future is kind of hollow to me. It's a minor accomplishment compared to what actually is NEEDED, which is what could come out from those talks. While its possible that it does turn out to be a really good thing....you don't get credit for the really good thing in terms of the election when you didn't get that really good thing done BEFORE the election. All you get credit for is a possibly suspect in intentions "talk" agreed to at some point in the future.

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    Re: U.S. Officials Say Iran Has Agreed to Nuclear Talks

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Call me cynical, and this would be my claim regardless of the party in power, but this smells.

    Iran's been an issue for YEARS now and somehow, two days before a Foreign Policy debate after the challenger has been gaining momentum, and with the election less than a month away, SUDDENLY it comes out that "Talks" will happen.

    Mind you...no guarantee talks result in anything, no guarantee that what is decided upon is actually followed or not, just a statement that there will be TALKS. However, what that means is that there's essentially "hope" something good will come from it and can be played as such despite the fact that it's essentially still a giant unknown.

    The fact this just HAPPENS to come out right at this moment is ridiculous coincidental to me and makes me question the sincerity of it in terms of the talks being legitimately useful or productive in any real fashion and not an attempt by both sides to attempt and simply influence the political process that's about to be had.

    As I said, call my cynical...but sorry, something smells weird. Props for getting talks agreed to....however, the notion of having "talks" at some point in the future is kind of hollow to me. It's a minor accomplishment compared to what actually is NEEDED, which is what could come out from those talks. While its possible that it does turn out to be a really good thing....you don't get credit for the really good thing in terms of the election when you didn't get that really good thing done BEFORE the election. All you get credit for is a possibly suspect in intentions "talk" agreed to at some point in the future.
    The one thing that inclines me to believe this may be genuine is that for the last several months there have been frequent reports that the sanctions on Iran where creating a major mess in that country. Whether this is legit or not I have no idea, but the possibility of it being so does exist.
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    Re: U.S. Officials Say Iran Has Agreed to Nuclear Talks

    What is to negotiate at this point? Open yourself up for inspection or suffer the consequences. A rumored agreement to possibly discuss things is irrelevant. Bush opposed direct talks because he felt that Iran just wanted to use it as a ploy to spit in the US eye. Their President is on the way out so who would really even have the authority to speak for them, and if we had a deal with the current regime it would be moot in pretty short order.....

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    Re: U.S. Officials Say Iran Has Agreed to Nuclear Talks

    It wouldn't be the first time the NYT has gotten a story wrong.

    Just for the sake of argument though, what if the US was quietly arranging bilateral talks? Wouldn't that be great news? Even better, what if the US had already begun the preliminaries?

    The longer this goes on it's looking less likely, but I still hold out hope and obviously prefer that political and diplomatic efforts can be made to settle Iran's nuclear issue to achieve a peaceful resolution.
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    Re: U.S. Officials Say Iran Has Agreed to Nuclear Talks

    Quote Originally Posted by treedancer View Post
    Kinda looks like there will be something of substance that BO can ask romneys advice on come Monday night.


    By HELENE COOPER and MARK LANDLER

    Published: October 20, 2012


    <WASHINGTON — The United States and Iran have agreed for the first time to one-on-one negotiations over Iran’s nuclear program, according to Obama administration officials, setting the stage for what could be a last-ditch diplomatic effort to avert a military strike on Iran.>


    <Iranian officials have insisted that the talks wait until after the presidential election, a senior administration official said, telling their American counterparts that they want to know which American president they would be negotiating with.>


    <Mr. Romney has repeatedly criticized the president as showing weakness toward Iran and failing to stand firmly with Israel against the Iranian nuclear threat.>

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/21/wo...m.html?_r=1&hp
    Throughout the diplomatic process, Iran has used "new" rounds of talks to buy time even as it has continued its nuclear activities. It has demonstrated inadequate flexibility in each of those rounds. My guess is that this latest round, even as it's bilateral, will again accomplish little.

    As for the President, he's in a tough spot on this issue. He can't go into too much detail e.g., strategy for this latest round. Public posturing can prove damaging to the diplomatic process. He needs to stick to general principles (those which have been stated on repeated occasions).

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    Re: U.S. Officials Say Iran Has Agreed to Nuclear Talks

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    Throughout the diplomatic process, Iran has used "new" rounds of talks to buy time even as it has continued its nuclear activities. It has demonstrated inadequate flexibility in each of those rounds. My guess is that this latest round, even as it's bilateral, will again accomplish little.

    As for the President, he's in a tough spot on this issue. He can't go into too much detail e.g., strategy for this latest round. Public posturing can prove damaging to the diplomatic process. He needs to stick to general principles (those which have been stated on repeated occasions).
    And if he sticks to "general principles (those which have been stated on repeated occasions "it becomes fodder for romney...kinda sad really.
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    Re: U.S. Officials Say Iran Has Agreed to Nuclear Talks

    Quote Originally Posted by Born Free View Post
    Iran wants to talk, is this something new. Yet another stall tactic, Obama will of course appease, appease, appease, them BOOM ....... Sorry Israel
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    Here comes Obama's October Surprise:


    Iran will agree to stop enrichment in return for loosening sanctions.


    Obama wins, America continues our decline, Iran fires up the centrifuges, nukes Israel, oil goes to $500...get the picture.


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    Why would Iran nuke Israel when they know that they will be annihilated? While Ahmadinejad has said crazy things, he isn't even in charge, the Supreme Leader Sayyid Ali Khamenei is in charge of the show.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Invisible View Post
    Why would Iran nuke Israel when they know that they will be annihilated? While Ahmadinejad has said crazy things, he isn't even in charge, the Supreme Leader Sayyid Ali Khamenei is in charge of the show.
    Probably because the "the Supreme Leader Sayyid Ali Khamenei "has a distorted take on the musim religion.
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