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    Re: U.S. Officials Say Iran Has Agreed to Nuclear Talks

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    The same way we did with Iraq, perhaps.
    That would be about the worst possible option.
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    Re: U.S. Officials Say Iran Has Agreed to Nuclear Talks

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Not if our country turned some crucial military installations into glass it wouldn't. We have the most powerful military force on planet earth. We don't have to send in foot soldiers. Time some of those tax dollars got spent saving lives instead of buying boots.
    Interesting. Drop an atomic bomb on a nuclear facility that is suspected/known to be building an atomic bomb. Irony is dead in america.

    A "surgical" strike is not a guarantee of success. It wouldn't be like Israel on Iraq decades ago. the Iranians are bristling with anti-air defences - admittedly few are first tier, but aint a countersystem on the planet that could deal with hundreds of missles at the the same time.

    And then there is the reaction of the rest of the world. Now I realize that the right doesn't really care too much, but such action whether successful or not will push a lot of countries into the sino/russian economic spheres (not political, strictly investment/supplier/customer terms), thereby guaranting china's non military acquisition of necessary land, food, mineral, energy. and enabling russia to regain world influence in economic terms instead of the militaristic influence of commie days. Give em a hand - they need it.
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    Re: U.S. Officials Say Iran Has Agreed to Nuclear Talks

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    That would be about the worst possible option.
    I meant that negotiations with Iraq weren't successful...not that we went in on them.

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    Interesting. Drop an atomic bomb on a nuclear facility that is suspected/known to be building an atomic bomb. Irony is dead in america.

    A "surgical" strike is not a guarantee of success. It wouldn't be like Israel on Iraq decades ago. the Iranians are bristling with anti-air defences - admittedly few are first tier, but aint a countersystem on the planet that could deal with hundreds of missles at the the same time.

    And then there is the reaction of the rest of the world. Now I realize that the right doesn't really care too much, but such action whether successful or not will push a lot of countries into the sino/russian economic spheres (not political, strictly investment/supplier/customer terms), thereby guaranting china's non military acquisition of necessary land, food, mineral, energy. and enabling russia to regain world influence in economic terms instead of the militaristic influence of commie days. Give em a hand - they need it.
    Well, not an atomic bomb, Jonsa. Though I said "glass," that really wasn't what I meant. It was just a fast way to communicate my thought that we should be able to destroy whatever facilities they have without putting men on the ground. And I also don't mean doing it alone.

    But, in the end, you and Redress are correct. Negotiations must come first. I just don't happen to think they'll do any good. Stall-build-stall-develop-stall-stall-stall. I guess we'll see, but since it's hardly worked in the past, I just don't hold out much hope. I should be more optimistic, I guess.
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    Re: U.S. Officials Say Iran Has Agreed to Nuclear Talks

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    I meant that negotiations with Iraq weren't successful...not that we went in on them.



    Well, not an atomic bomb, Jonsa. Though I said "glass," that really wasn't what I meant. It was just a fast way to communicate my thought that we should be able to destroy whatever facilities they have without putting men on the ground. And I also don't mean doing it alone.

    But, in the end, you and Redress are correct. Negotiations must come first. I just don't happen to think they'll do any good. Stall-build-stall-develop-stall-stall-stall. I guess we'll see, but since it's hardly worked in the past, I just don't hold out much hope. I should be more optimistic, I guess.
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    Re: U.S. Officials Say Iran Has Agreed to Nuclear Talks

    Quote Originally Posted by treedancer View Post
    Where would the funding come from for this new war you want us to go into?
    I don't want us to get into a war. I guess I completely misrepresented my position. The last thing I want is a war. But if it came to acts of war, I wouldn't want it to be like Iraq where we sent our guys in to get killed -- or Afghanistan where we send our guys in to get killed. We have their targets delineated, apparently. I'd hope we'd just destroy them from the air.

    Oh. The money? That would come from you and me just like always.

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    Re: U.S. Officials Say Iran Has Agreed to Nuclear Talks

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    How do you think that romney would do?
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    Re: U.S. Officials Say Iran Has Agreed to Nuclear Talks

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Someone posted at thread on this using a flufey source a few days ago. Posters laughed at the source. Who's laughin' now?

    Another reason not to elect President Obama. We'll end up buyin' them off with taxpayer funds. Watch. You read it here first.
    Technically the other post says a deal has been reached and this story just says that Iran has expressed interest in 1 on 1 talks that have yet to take place, so yeah I am laughin' still at the first thread and do not see this as a game changer. Took 4 years just to get them to say they would be willing to talk to us directly is not huge progress.

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    Re: U.S. Officials Say Iran Has Agreed to Nuclear Talks

    The White House is flatly rejecting the New York Times report and that there is no evidence to substantiate a claim that Iran has agreed to bilateral talks.

    BBC News - US denies Iran nuclear talks New York Times report

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    Re: U.S. Officials Say Iran Has Agreed to Nuclear Talks

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    The White House is flatly rejecting the New York Times report and that there is no evidence to substantiate a claim that Iran has agreed to bilateral talks.

    BBC News - US denies Iran nuclear talks New York Times report
    The thick is plottening.

    The reports who report the NY Times report are White House correspondents. Very peculiar.
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    Re: U.S. Officials Say Iran Has Agreed to Nuclear Talks

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    The thick is plottening.

    The reports who report the NY Times report are White House correspondents. Very peculiar.
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