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    Re: U.S. Officials Say Iran Has Agreed to Nuclear Talks

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    AS far as I am concerned the US has no business dictating what weapons a country can or can't have. Especially seeing how the US,and many other countries have nukes themselves,talk about hypocritical. So Iron should just extend a couple of middle fingers and tell the UN and everyone else to go **** themselves.
    This has nothing to do with fairness. I don't care an iota about what Iran things is fair. This is about what is in the interests of the United States, the interests of global liberalism, and the hoped for spread of democratic hegemony. Fairness? It's nonsense. Like Marx said, there is a world to win.

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    Re: U.S. Officials Say Iran Has Agreed to Nuclear Talks

    The President of the United States said tonight the rumor is not true. Case closed. Mystery solved. Rumor quashed.

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    Re: U.S. Officials Say Iran Has Agreed to Nuclear Talks

    Quote Originally Posted by Sherman123 View Post
    This has nothing to do with fairness. I don't care an iota about what Iran things is fair. This is about what is in the interests of the United States,
    Iran is no threat to the US.

    the interests of global liberalism, and the hoped for spread of democratic hegemony. Fairness? It's nonsense. Like Marx said, there is a world to win.
    1.Globalist are scum of the earth with no loyalty to their country,so I don't give a damn about global liberalism. 2.Democracy is not going to be spread or stopped or threatened just because Iran has nukes.3.I could care less what Marx said.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: U.S. Officials Say Iran Has Agreed to Nuclear Talks

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Iran is no threat to the US.


    1.Globalist are scum of the earth with no loyalty to their country,so I don't give a damn about global liberalism. 2.Democracy is not going to be spread or stopped or threatened just because Iran has nukes.3.I could care less what Marx said.
    1. Globalism is the future of humanity and the existence of an interconnected and globalized world with repercussions reverberating from one area of the world to the other, a fact of life.

    2. Democracy and a general liberal agenda is going to be checked by an Iranian nuke by increasing that countries ability to contest for control of the region and to create greater tension and conflict.

    3. It is a good turn of phrase, and Marx had many of them including not a few insightful ideas. Ideological choke chains tend to prevent people from seeing that.

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    Re: U.S. Officials Say Iran Has Agreed to Nuclear Talks

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Iran is no threat to the US.
    Iranian regional hegemony would pose a direct threat to vital U.S. interests (access to Persian Gulf oil) and regional allies (Israel, Saudi Arabia, and the smaller Persian Gulf states).

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    Re: U.S. Officials Say Iran Has Agreed to Nuclear Talks

    Quote Originally Posted by Sherman123 View Post
    1. Globalism is the future of humanity and the existence of an interconnected and globalized world with repercussions reverberating from one area of the world to the other, a fact of life.
    Only pieces of **** globalist are claiming that.Globalism is not necessary for the future of humanity.

    2. Democracy and a general liberal agenda is going to be checked by an Iranian nuke by increasing that countries ability to contest for control of the region and to create greater tension and conflict.

    Seeing how we have the most nukes in the world our democracy is not checked nor is the democracy of other countries in check. Iran having some nukes is not going to impact the area.Iran is also not a threat to us.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: U.S. Officials Say Iran Has Agreed to Nuclear Talks

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    Iranian regional hegemony would pose a direct threat to vital U.S. interests (access to Persian Gulf oil) and regional allies (Israel, Saudi Arabia, and the smaller Persian Gulf states).
    1.We should not be dependent on foreign oil.Especially if that money lines the pockets of dictators and other people who do not share our ideals.

    2.Those countries can take care of themselves.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: U.S. Officials Say Iran Has Agreed to Nuclear Talks

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Only pieces of **** globalist are claiming that.Globalism is not necessary for the future of humanity.




    Seeing how we have the most nukes in the world our democracy is not checked nor is the democracy of other countries in check. Iran having some nukes is not going to impact the area.Iran is also not a threat to us.
    1. I don't follow.

    2. There are more layers of threat than the simple "Will my country be destroyed by X country". Foreign policy is slightly more sophisticated and complex than that.

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    Re: U.S. Officials Say Iran Has Agreed to Nuclear Talks

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    1.We should not be dependent on foreign oil.Especially if that money lines the pockets of dictators and other people who do not share our ideals.
    The U.S. and its leading partners in Europe and East Asia are dependent on foreign oil. Even if the U.S. achieved energy "independence" from the Mideast, open access to Persian Gulf oil would remain at least a critical U.S. interest so long as major U.S. partners remained dependent on Mideast oil. Moreover, so long as a sustained disruption of Mideast oil would lead to a significant global economic shock, access to the Persian Gulf would also remain a critical interest given the linkages between the U.S. economy and world's economies. In that context, a nuclear-armed Iran would pose a grave threat to critical U.S. interests.

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    Re: U.S. Officials Say Iran Has Agreed to Nuclear Talks

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    Iranian regional hegemony would pose a direct threat to vital U.S. interests (access to Persian Gulf oil) and regional allies (Israel, Saudi Arabia, and the smaller Persian Gulf states).
    Not to be a contrarian Don, but I really wouldn't say that the Saudis are our friends.

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