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    Re: Boy Scouts' 'perversion files' show how scoutmasters accused of molestation

    The news story that ran on this in my area, cited 3 cases, 2 went to prison and one disappeared.
    The files look like internal files looking for patterns of abuse.
    The troops I have worked with are all parent run groups.
    If a person did not have a child in the troop, or one who had been, they would look out of place.

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    Re: Boy Scouts' 'perversion files' show how scoutmasters accused of molestation

    I was a Boy Scout I guess during quite a few years of that period. My scoutmaster was a pretty good outdoors man from who I learned to build a fire under almost any conditions, how to stay dry or get dry, what to eat and what not to, and a love of being in the backwoods of Indiana only an ex wife could beat out of me, and most importantly a self reliance that has lasted my life. I and many others have similar memories of BSA. This coverup is a shame, but just on those who did it.

    I can kinda understand the kids not saying anything, and the perverts not wanting to get caught, but what causes full grown adult males, wether at Penn State, the Catholic Church or the BSA think covering up the perverts is the right thing to do? Somehow it seems to me to make them at least as bad as the pedophiles.
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    Re: Boy Scouts' 'perversion files' show how scoutmasters accused of molestation

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    It should be noted that the scouts are a religious organization. Coincidence? You decide. Me? I see a pattern.


    I am an eagle scout. A member of the OA, skyuka lodge. I worked at a scout camp for two years, as well. I never once saw any sexual abuse, nor heard about any. This was in SC. I dont think there were/are that many cases...that they were covered up is the major story here. I also wonder if this sort of thing is becoming more prevalent since the Mormons took over...
    Two doesn't make a pattern. My personal view on why the Catholic church is plagued by abuse is from the celibacy of the priests. I think after years of it, its screws you up in the head. ****, at least rub one out on occasion! I'd wager that there is some degree of this in any organization that masses young boys together. Predators go where the prey is.

    As far as the BS's approach to this, completely wrong. Its NEVER a good idea to try to hide abuse such as this, regardless what it does to the reputation of the organization. In fact, think it makes the organization more reputable if they handle it openly and harshly punish the perpetuators.

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    Re: Boy Scouts' 'perversion files' show how scoutmasters accused of molestation

    All the more reason to be ever watchful of our children's associates.

    Prior to the liberal takeover, when American families were still intact, fathers quietly took care of these things on their own and the authorities had no fear of liberal client group attacks for simply doing their job and protecting decent people. One cannot help but remember the authorities failed to take any action against Jeffrey Dahmer because of their fear of one particular liberal client group lobby.

    On a related note, does anyone know at what age a boy is considered adult enough to be approached sexually by "non-pedophile" homosexuals? Certainly it is long before age 18.
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    Re: Boy Scouts' 'perversion files' show how scoutmasters accused of molestation

    Quote Originally Posted by Ray410 View Post
    All the more reason to be ever watchful of our children's associates.

    Prior to the liberal takeover, when American families were still intact, fathers quietly took care of these things on their own and the authorities had no fear of liberal client group attacks for simply doing their job and protecting decent people. One cannot help but remember the authorities failed to take any action against Jeffrey Dahmer because of their fear of one particular liberal client group lobby.

    On a related note, does anyone know at what age a boy is considered adult enough to be approached sexually by "non-pedophile" homosexuals? Certainly it is long before age 18.
    Ah yes, the age of segregation, rampart homophobia and xenophobia was a staple of every middle class American family in the suburbs. That's the time we should look at - before us liberals took over.
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    Re: Boy Scouts' 'perversion files' show how scoutmasters accused of molestation

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Ah yes, the age of segregation, rampart homophobia and xenophobia was a staple of every middle class American family in the suburbs. That's the time we should look at - before us liberals took over.
    It all seems pretty quaint now in light of the problems you've created and the enormous numbers of people you've hurt, all without responsibility or concern, doesn't it?
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    Re: Boy Scouts' 'perversion files' show how scoutmasters accused of molestation

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    I was a Boy Scout I guess during quite a few years of that period. My scoutmaster was a pretty good outdoors man from who I learned to build a fire under almost any conditions, how to stay dry or get dry, what to eat and what not to, and a love of being in the backwoods of Indiana only an ex wife could beat out of me, and most importantly a self reliance that has lasted my life. I and many others have similar memories of BSA. This coverup is a shame, but just on those who did it.

    I can kinda understand the kids not saying anything, and the perverts not wanting to get caught, but what causes full grown adult males, wether at Penn State, the Catholic Church or the BSA think covering up the perverts is the right thing to do? Somehow it seems to me to make them at least as bad as the pedophiles.
    I am conflicted about this. Look at the Penn State thing and you'll see that most of the victims wanted to remain anonymous and they are now adults. Kids are horribly mean and if you went after the abusers in a lot of places everybody would know the name of the victim in pretty short order which might drive them over the cliff the abuse pushed them onto the ledge of. I would have to know more details on a case by case basis whether the BSA, law enforcement had good intentions or bad intentions and what the parents/victims positions were.

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    Re: Boy Scouts' 'perversion files' show how scoutmasters accused of molestation

    Quote Originally Posted by Ray410 View Post
    It all seems pretty quaint now in light of the problems you've created and the enormous numbers of people you've hurt, all without responsibility or concern, doesn't it?
    Hahahaha. No, no - not quaint. Ridiculous.
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    Re: Boy Scouts' 'perversion files' show how scoutmasters accused of molestation

    I dont understand what you are saying. Is it you think that before all the liberals "took over" there were fewer homosexuals so there were less problems?
    Quote Originally Posted by Ray410 View Post
    It all seems pretty quaint now in light of the problems you've created and the enormous numbers of people you've hurt, all without responsibility or concern, doesn't it?
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    Re: Boy Scouts' 'perversion files' show how scoutmasters accused of molestation

    Quote Originally Posted by Ray410 View Post
    All the more reason to be ever watchful of our children's associates.

    Prior to the liberal takeover, when American families were still intact, fathers quietly took care of these things on their own and the authorities had no fear of liberal client group attacks for simply doing their job and protecting decent people. One cannot help but remember the authorities failed to take any action against Jeffrey Dahmer because of their fear of one particular liberal client group lobby.
    Yeah, funny how the records go back to those imaginary days when "American families were still intact" and show similar patterns of behaviour as the present days of societal breakdown. (/sarcasm)

    On a related note, does anyone know at what age a boy is considered adult enough to be approached sexually by "non-pedophile" homosexuals? Certainly it is long before age 18.
    Why are you focusing on gays? Your question would be more accurate if you had written: "... does anyone know at what age a child, male or female, is considered adult enough to be approached sexually by "non-pedophile" sexual predators? Certainly it is long before age 18"

    What do you consider "long before"? Most predators who focus on teens want a sexually mature but emotionally immature and insecure target.
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