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    Re: New York appeals court strikes down Defense of Marriage Act

    This is bad news for Obama, because now all Romney has to do is tell his bigoted right wing flock that if he's not elected, Obama will fill the court up with "fag" lovers, and laws like DOMA won't be protected.

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    Re: New York appeals court strikes down Defense of Marriage Act

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Actually it is. It always has been and it always will be.
    No, liberty is not subject to majority rule. that is the genius of the constitution. It protects the few from the tyranny of the many.

    The idea that a courts should do what the majority of the people want is the antithesis of what america is all about. Unfortunately there are a lot of righties that think liberty and equality are great for "real americans" and everyone else is subject to their version of reality. Your comment seems to endorse that regrettable stance.
    My Karma ran over your Dogma.

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    Re: New York appeals court strikes down Defense of Marriage Act

    Quote Originally Posted by Keridan View Post
    Yay for striking down this joke of a law! Take it up to SCOTUS and settle it once and for all.
    Then perhaps we can get to business and get government OUT of marriage. Yes?

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    Re: New York appeals court strikes down Defense of Marriage Act

    Romney, representing the GOP, was bound to get the bigot vote anyway. Actually, I don't think Romney himself is bigoted but every vote counts.

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    Re: New York appeals court strikes down Defense of Marriage Act

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    This is bad news for Obama, because now all Romney has to do is tell his bigoted right wing flock that if he's not elected, Obama will fill the court up with "fag" lovers, and laws like DOMA won't be protected.

    I hope this was an attempt at sarcasm

    because - Most Americans support same-sex unions and now even the socially conservative Latino demographic has changed its views - Majority of Latinos Back Same-Sex Marriage



    and simply to forestall the nay-sayers, yes - a majority of African Americans are still opposed to gay marriage BUT such opposition is not enough to change their support of the President's re-election
    “And I have no doubt that every new example will succeed, as every past one has done, in shewing that religion & Govt will both exist in greater purity, the less they are mixed together.”
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    Re: New York appeals court strikes down Defense of Marriage Act

    Quote Originally Posted by Jonsa View Post
    No, liberty is not subject to majority rule. that is the genius of the constitution. It protects the few from the tyranny of the many.
    No, it doesn't. Every last protection lined out in the constitution is violated right this very moment. Second, liberty is taken by the government everyday and it has been since government was created with only a few spaces in time when it wasn't. Hell, the entirely of this subject is about lost liberty and no I'm not talking about gays not being allowed to marry either.

    The idea that a courts should do what the majority of the people want is the antithesis of what america is all about. Unfortunately there are a lot of righties that think liberty and equality are great for "real americans" and everyone else is subject to their version of reality. Your comment seems to endorse that regrettable stance.
    Liberals on this issue alone are enormous hypocrites denying the right to marry for all sorts of people. They just make one more exception than the people you are talking about. Not really that much to cheer about honestly.

    As for what I endorse, that would be the removal of government from marriage completely.

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    Re: New York appeals court strikes down Defense of Marriage Act

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Then perhaps we can get to business and get government OUT of marriage. Yes?
    Exactly what I'm praying for
    Omniscience just sucks without omnipotence!

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    Re: New York appeals court strikes down Defense of Marriage Act

    Quote Originally Posted by Ray410 View Post
    All of their victories now come through liberal courts rather than popular vote. Not at all something to celebrate actually, quite the opposite. It is a false victory to celebrate defeating the will of the people.

    That is why beneficiaries of Affirmative Action are ridiculed, that is why the immigrants are so hated.
    The will of the people does not allow you to strip the rights and oppress other people. Sorry, but democracy is tyranny of the majority, and not everyone is in the majority.

    to put it in a way that your mind can understand it, under you values if the people voted into law a bill that said you personally could be imprisoned and tortured for the rest of your life until you die you would have no protection from the will of the people. Of course the courts would be the one place where you could go for protection from the will of the people. They would uphold that even if all the people but yourself voted for cruel and inhuman torture of yourself that it was wrong.

    No, you do not get to vote other people's rights away. Sorry you think that should be so, but my rights are not yours to vote away. Do also remember that though the gays have not taken their rights by force, it is within the second amendment where I am guaranteed the right to put bullets into your fascist brain if you ever try to take my rights by force. You want those rights, come and get them. Otherwise learn to deal with yourself and stop worrying about what people who have no effect on your life are doing. I don't come for your right to date, have sex, or marry because you chose someone I find physically repulsive, so give it up on telling others about it. They are consenting adults so stay out of their bedroom unless you want to get ****ed.

    I would really have to imagine you have some things about yourself you need to correct before you start pissing and moaning about others. Get to work on your problems and then come talk to us when you are perfect.

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    Re: New York appeals court strikes down Defense of Marriage Act

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Then perhaps we can get to business and get government OUT of marriage. Yes?
    How does DOMA get government OUT of marriage? It furthers government control over marriage.

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    Re: New York appeals court strikes down Defense of Marriage Act

    Hey look at who was on TV today!


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