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    Re: 41 percent of adults don't work

    I'm not speaking for anybody else, but my conservative platform is, "Get off your butts, all you able-bodied folks, and stop playing the system!"

    I see too many 20-somethings who do just this. Kids my kids went to school with. Some breed for benefits; some sling dope. And they think that those of us who do work are chumps. Seriously.

    How about an old-fashioned return for these citizens to "You don't work--you don't eat"?

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    Re: 41 percent of adults don't work

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    I'm not speaking for anybody else, but my conservative platform is, "Get off your butts, all you able-bodied folks, and stop playing the system!"

    I see too many 20-somethings who do just this. Kids my kids went to school with. Some breed for benefits; some sling dope. And they think that those of us who do work are chumps. Seriously.

    How about an old-fashioned return for these citizens to "You don't work--you don't eat"?
    So I take it from you assertion that you assume that all of those unemployed do so only with the known benefit of reaping welfare rewards. Would you perhaps mind proving that the entire populace of unemployed are all lazy moochers as opposed to a generalized assertion that they're all lazy moochers?

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    Re: 41 percent of adults don't work

    Thirty-three percent is a very good number and I wish it were higher. A full fifty percent of American adults are women.

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    Re: 41 percent of adults don't work

    41% is actually a very good proportion when you compare it with the proportion of elite capitalists who actually have a positive work output

    Recent statistics show that about 97% of Capitalists dont actually do any work - almost as high as the Royal family, whereby 100% dont actually do any work

    (there is a negative correlation between work output and personal wealth and power within the elite fascist corporate capitalists running around in the USA - in fact they tend to NOT run but are carried for most of the time)

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    Re: 41 percent of adults don't work

    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaIncognito View Post
    So I take it from you assertion that you assume that all of those unemployed do so only with the known benefit of reaping welfare rewards. Would you perhaps mind proving that the entire populace of unemployed are all lazy moochers as opposed to a generalized assertion that they're all lazy moochers?
    Why does anyone have to prove that the entire populace of unemployed are all lazy moochers? If you have one cheater in the system then it's worth doing something about. Are you saying that if only 10 percent are lazy moochers, then it's okay that they are....but if it were 70 percent you would feel different? Whatever percentage of cheating in the welfare there is.....it affects the rest of us , not just the working class but the deserving welfare recipients as well. The percentage has nothing to do with whether it is right or not.

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    Re: 41 percent of adults don't work

    Quote Originally Posted by melons View Post
    Why does anyone have to prove that the entire populace of unemployed are all lazy moochers? If you have one cheater in the system then it's worth doing something about.
    There's efficiency to consider. It's more efficient to let some cheaters get away with it than to design a system where they can't.

    It would actually be cheaper in this country to give welfare benefits to everyone who asked for them than it is with our current investigative measures in place.

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    Re: 41 percent of adults don't work

    Quote Originally Posted by Viktyr Gehrig View Post
    There's efficiency to consider. It's more efficient to let some cheaters get away with it than to design a system where they can't.

    It would actually be cheaper in this country to give welfare benefits to everyone who asked for them than it is with our current investigative measures in place.
    No, cheating the welfare system is equal to stealing. We don't a let a percentage of people who steal get away with it just because it would be expensive to use the court system or put them in jail. What if we did that? We aren't talking about these people stealing hundreds of dollars. It is thousands of dollars. That goes against of principles as Americans. We put people in jail for stealing much less than that.

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    Re: 41 percent of adults don't work

    Quote Originally Posted by melons View Post
    No, cheating the welfare system is equal to stealing. We don't a let a percentage of people who steal get away with it just because it would be expensive to use the court system or put them in jail.
    I agree with this. But retail stores also seek to prevent theft, and they aren't willing to spend more on theft prevention than they make by selling the products. There is such a concept as "shrinkage", acceptable losses, that we simply must accept as the price of doing business because otherwise we can't afford to do business at all.

    Nobody likes the welfare system, but we need it. I want to spend as little money on it as possible while providing the services we need. When fraud is cheaper than fraud prevention, I would rather tolerate the fraud.

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    Re: 41 percent of adults don't work

    Quote Originally Posted by Viktyr Gehrig View Post
    I agree with this. But retail stores also seek to prevent theft, and they aren't willing to spend more on theft prevention than they make by selling the products. There is such a concept as "shrinkage", acceptable losses, that we simply must accept as the price of doing business because otherwise we can't afford to do business at all.

    Nobody likes the welfare system, but we need it. I want to spend as little money on it as possible while providing the services we need. When fraud is cheaper than fraud prevention, I would rather tolerate the fraud.
    With no idea how much fraud there is out there, you can't make that kind of educated assumption. First you have to know how much your losing to know if it is worthwhile and that is my point.

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    Re: 41 percent of adults don't work

    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaIncognito View Post
    So I take it from you assertion that you assume that all of those unemployed do so only with the known benefit of reaping welfare rewards. Would you perhaps mind proving that the entire populace of unemployed are all lazy moochers as opposed to a generalized assertion that they're all lazy moochers?
    That's your hasty, unfair overgeneralization, not mine.

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