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    Re: Japanese officials angry after 2 U.S. sailors arrested in Okinawa rape case

    I would like to see the marines come home and defend America

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    Re: Japanese officials angry after 2 U.S. sailors arrested in Okinawa rape case

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    They are responsible for punishing their actions, the US government or military as a whole did not go out and rape these victims. Individual soldiers did and the responsibility of the US government and military is to bring about justice.
    Then that does not necessitate the imposition of a curfew by the military going by your reasoning.

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    Re: Japanese officials angry after 2 U.S. sailors arrested in Okinawa rape case

    Quote Originally Posted by Edward View Post
    I would like to see the marines come home and defend America
    I somewhat agree with the sentiment, although Marines are, by their existance, offensive troops designed for offensive operations.
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    Re: Japanese officials angry after 2 U.S. sailors arrested in Okinawa rape case

    Quote Originally Posted by Edward View Post
    If they in fact were guilty then they should pay the price.
    Yes, our price - not tried by propaganda in some random backwards shthole, which we're trying to help. Get some perspective.
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    Re: Japanese officials angry after 2 U.S. sailors arrested in Okinawa rape case

    Why disrespect our troops?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    I think the OP has more to do with the U.S. excusing all actions of its soldiers overseas. Kill and rape a village in Vietnam? Covered up. Shot at women and children in Iraq? Stress and mismanagement, terrible accident. Rape a woman in Japan? Stress.

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    Re: Japanese officials angry after 2 U.S. sailors arrested in Okinawa rape case

    US troops are in Okinawa by invitation. The Japanese could vote at any time to have the Americans leave. In fact, there have been several referendums on the matter, but they always choose to keep American troops around.

    There are 36,000 young men stationed in Okinawa at all times. You are referring to a case that is nearly 20 years old. Clearly, this sort of thing doesn't happen very often.

    1/36,000 soldiers * 1/20 years = 1/720,000 odds a soldier will rape someone this year.

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    Here's a hot tip for you. This is not a petty issue.
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    Re: Japanese officials angry after 2 U.S. sailors arrested in Okinawa rape case

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    US troops are in Okinawa by invitation. The Japanese could vote at any time to have the Americans leave. In fact, there have been several referendums on the matter, but they always choose to keep American troops around.

    There are 36,000 young men stationed in Okinawa at all times. You are referring to a case that is nearly 20 years old. Clearly, this sort of thing doesn't happen very often.

    1/36,000 soldiers * 1/20 years = 1/720,000 odds a soldier will rape someone this year.
    Actually, the case is not 20 years old.

    "The two men, both 23, are alleged to have raped a Japanese woman in the early hours of Tuesday morning, leaving her with an injury to her neck, police said. They were taken into custody later that day."

    The article mentions a similar case that happened in 1995, but in the first paragraphs it is discussing a case that happened this past Tuesday.
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    Re: Japanese officials angry after 2 U.S. sailors arrested in Okinawa rape case

    I can't vouch for this source, but the guy seems to have used actual stats from Japan:


    This gives a crime rate of 366 crimes per 10,000 Japanese males against 53 crimes per 10,000 U.S. servicemen. In other words, the per capita crime rate of U.S. servicemen in Okinawa is only 14 percent of that of the Japanese.
    Japan Perspectives | "Crime and U.S. servicemen in Okinawa" by Bill Stonehill

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    Re: Japanese officials angry after 2 U.S. sailors arrested in Okinawa rape case

    Crime happens no matter where you live. Our servicemen in Okinawa don't account for a very large portion of the crime committed there. Turning this into a mountain because of your personal disdain for the US military just weakens your stance.
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    Re: Japanese officials angry after 2 U.S. sailors arrested in Okinawa rape case

    I want to deviate a little but it's still a related issue. Those statistics does not mean much because there will be many unreported cases in Okinawa and within the US military itself.

    Rape within the US military has become so widespread that it is estimated that a female soldier in Iraq is more likely to be attacked by a fellow soldier than killed by enemy fire. So great is the issue that a group of veterans are suing the Pentagon to force reform. The lawsuit, which includes three men and 25 women (the suit initially involved 17 plaintiffs but grew to 28) who claim to have been subjected to sexual assaults while serving in the armed forces, blames former defence secretaries Donald Rumsfeld and Robert Gates for a culture of punishment against the women and men who report sex crimes and a failure to prosecute the offenders.
    Rape in the US military: America's dirty little secret | Society | The Guardian

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