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    Re: French president pushing homework ban as part of ed reforms

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    As far as being less education in France... from the article:

    Despite the four-day school week, elementary school children in France spend more hours a year in school than many other developed countries because students are there all day, starting at 8:30 a.m. and ending at 4:30 p.m., with some kids staying even later.


    And Hollande wants to up it from 4 days a week to 4 1/2 days a week. So even more hours.
    It is also a way for parents to teach their children what their good at. For example a dad who is a mechanic can teach their child about fixing engines and his knowledge of the trade. Thereby passing on his knowledge to the next generation. Instead of spending time try to help his child with biology, social studies and other subjet that he have very litltle knowledge in.

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    Re: French president pushing homework ban as part of ed reforms

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    I'm for banning of homework. IMO... kids need more work at home FROM home. Teach them their 7-8 hours a day in school, let them go home and let them engage with their families. I'm for it.
    The problem is that more children are coming from broken homes and single parents families, which this new law is attempting to address.

    Whether it is doing that in the best way is why its being debated.

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    Re: French president pushing homework ban as part of ed reforms

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    The problem is that more children are coming from broken homes and single parents families, which this new law is attempting to address.

    Whether it is doing that in the best way is why its being debated.
    That's one way to put it. We see the effects of social dgeneration and instead of getting a handle on that they limit the ability of the traditional parents to spend time with their kids to level the playing field. There is more to raising children than what they learn in school.

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    Re: French president pushing homework ban as part of ed reforms

    book knowledge is only as good as the teachers teaching it.....and the willing of the students to want to learn it. Our Charter as I have said has a high graduation rate...small drop out rate and high college rate...and the teachers have no tenure and make the classes fun....and yes give homework everyday.....not to mention go to school more hrs then the French schools do......we are also a school of over 2400 students.

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    Re: French president pushing homework ban as part of ed reforms

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    French president pushing homework ban as part of ed reforms

    I really don't know what to write. Is this even real? Are you freaking kidding me?

    Hollande wants to punish kids for having involved parents out of "fairness"?

    So is he going to ban parenting next? It's really no more absurd than banning homework.
    This is really stupid. Some kids certainly don't have help at home, but the best thing to do is offer increased after school tutoring for them, not just eliminate homework. For goodness sake, why are people so stupid.

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    Re: French president pushing homework ban as part of ed reforms

    Quote Originally Posted by tech30528 View Post
    That's one way to put it. We see the effects of social dgeneration and instead of getting a handle on that they limit the ability of the traditional parents to spend time with their kids to level the playing field. There is more to raising children than what they learn in school.
    Yes, certainly parents can do more but in most cases those who do more are already doing more. There are a great many responsible parents who look after their children when they're not in school, who do their best to turn them into well adjusted adults. But this s not what the proposal is about.

    Perhaps it goes beyond what parents are doing at home and schools should focus more on what it takes to become responsible adults, with the ethics and morals that implies. Since the Christian religion has faltered in some areas there are few places left where young people can receive moral guidance, They don't seem to be getting it from pop culture and many of them aren't getting it at home. Where else but the schools?

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    Re: French president pushing homework ban as part of ed reforms

    That is it!

    I am sick of people not respecting other ideas at all. (I'm referring to how you use socialist to refer to ANY position against your own.)

    Socialism does not mean the lack of homework, and just because Holande, who is a center-left social democrat, is against homework, does not mean that the lack of homework is a socialist policy. (Or an Islamist one according to Marsden.)

    In fact, you internet conservatives keep on claiming that America is under the EVUL SOCIALIST RULE OF DA DIKTATOR BARRACK HUSSEIN OSAMA, yet you would always support the various aspects of America's system over the European system. (All because Europeans have more welfare and a tiny bit more government intervention in economic matters.)

    Also, you can't say that people's ideology determines their intelligence. (How are European social democrats somehow dumber than American conservatives? Nationality and ideology do not determine intelligence.) Even though, America, as a western developed country, has the highest percentage of people who reject the Theory of Evolution, which along with genetics forms the basis of modern day biology.

    And, please use facts about both nations' educational systems instead of assertions based on your national prides.

    Not only that, but this issue isn't even ideological or nationalistic in nature. It is an issue over educational philosophy. And, it is over homework. What merit does homework have in education? And, how is the lack of homework bad for education? And, how are students who want to learn penalized by the lack of homework, even though they can voluntarily or with their parents study at home?

    After all, the site's motto is "Political bias optional, civility a MUST!". Live up to it.

    (As for my position on this, I don't really care about the issue. I just hate it when people use logical fallacies and type terrible posts to further their agenda through an issue that is not related to the agenda.)

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    Re: French president pushing homework ban as part of ed reforms

    Quote Originally Posted by DinodudeEpic View Post
    That is it!

    I am sick of people not respecting other ideas at all. (I'm referring to how you use socialist to refer to ANY position against your own.)
    It appears you are sick of opposing ideas yourself.

    Socialists like the idea of social engineering, right?, just as this French Socialist is doing.

    But don't think for a moment that there aren't others with some power who think they can't improve society with a little social engineering themselves. Self important dickheads are a danger to everyone everywhere.

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    Re: French president pushing homework ban as part of ed reforms

    Quote Originally Posted by dinodudeepic View Post
    that is it!

    I am sick of people not respecting other ideas at all. (i'm referring to how you use socialist to refer to any position against your own.)

    socialism does not mean the lack of homework, and just because holande, who is a center-left social democrat, is against homework, does not mean that the lack of homework is a socialist policy. (or an islamist one according to marsden.)

    in fact, you internet conservatives keep on claiming that america is under the evul socialist rule of da diktator barrack hussein osama, yet you would always support the various aspects of america's system over the european system. (all because europeans have more welfare and a tiny bit more government intervention in economic matters.)

    also, you can't say that people's ideology determines their intelligence. (how are european social democrats somehow dumber than american conservatives? Nationality and ideology do not determine intelligence.) even though, america, as a western developed country, has the highest percentage of people who reject the theory of evolution, which along with genetics forms the basis of modern day biology.

    And, please use facts about both nations' educational systems instead of assertions based on your national prides.

    Not only that, but this issue isn't even ideological or nationalistic in nature. It is an issue over educational philosophy. And, it is over homework. What merit does homework have in education? And, how is the lack of homework bad for education? And, how are students who want to learn penalized by the lack of homework, even though they can voluntarily or with their parents study at home?

    After all, the site's motto is "political bias optional, civility a must!". Live up to it.

    (as for my position on this, i don't really care about the issue. I just hate it when people use logical fallacies and type terrible posts to further their agenda through an issue that is not related to the agenda.)
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    Re: French president pushing homework ban as part of ed reforms

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Yes, certainly parents can do more but in most cases those who do more are already doing more. There are a great many responsible parents who look after their children when they're not in school, who do their best to turn them into well adjusted adults. But this s not what the proposal is about.

    Perhaps it goes beyond what parents are doing at home and schools should focus more on what it takes to become responsible adults, with the ethics and morals that implies. Since the Christian religion has faltered in some areas there are few places left where young people can receive moral guidance, They don't seem to be getting it from pop culture and many of them aren't getting it at home. Where else but the schools?
    There is that flawed assumption again. Pop cture has failed and parents are disconnected or absent so we dfailt to letting the government do it? Does that really seem like a good option? So far the answer from them is not to help those with single parents of nk parents to dk better but to pull those who have two involved parents down. That's not progress peolpe, it's playing to the lowest common denominator.

    A problem has been discovered, the fault lies in the parents, itis now their responsibilty to fix it as individuals in their own homes.

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