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    Re: French president pushing homework ban as part of ed reforms

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    "American teachers, textbooks, and curriculum".

    There is no such thing. That's what socialists don't understand about capitalistic countries. There is no mandated official textbook or curriculum (at least not yet, God help us).
    Horse**** and you know it. Most school districts use text books from certain major states... Texas was the source of my text books... that was before they went bat crazy on Jesus in that state.

    People here have the choice, opportunity, and freedom to seek out an advanced, stringent, specific, and family-driven approach to education, which does create a difference in graduates in the end. It's called competition, and if your parents, and you, don't give a crap about your education, you're going to be left behind by some. Your education won't be equal to others, regardless of what "diploma" you are given.

    Capitalists focus on encouraging the achievers. Others focus on bringing everyone to the same level as the lowest common denominator.
    talk about arrogance.. you seriously believe that the US is superior to others dont you? Pathetic nationalistic arrogance.
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    Re: French president pushing homework ban as part of ed reforms

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    French president pushing homework ban as part of ed reforms





    I really don't know what to write. Is this even real? Are you freaking kidding me?

    Hollande wants to punish kids for having involved parents out of "fairness"?

    So is he going to ban parenting next? It's really no more absurd than banning homework.
    Ok.

    Everybody PAY ATTENTION. THIS is a socialist measure through and through.

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    Re: French president pushing homework ban as part of ed reforms

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    First, your French apologism is clearly clouding your comprehension and judgment skills.
    LOL French apologism? I point out a fact, and suddenly I am a French apologist?

    I cannot speak for others, but my post was about concept, not nationalism. France is merely the example at hand. Nothing more, nothing less.
    The whole thread was based on an attack Hollande and France pure and simple. Hollande wants to change the french system after Sarkozy's gutting of the system.. and one of those changes is not to have homework. Big deal.

    Now on the concept, that we can discuss. More school hours, less homework... there are different results world wide. Finland has low school hours and yet perform better than most. Japan has high school hours and demands (which brings high suicide rates among students btw) but also brings good results.

    Second, if you cannot see that lowering the bar for those who want to excel is the same as lowering the bar for everybody, then maybe you are a good example why other parts of the world are catching up to, and surpassing, Europe in many areas.
    Horse**** on so many fronts. No one is lowering the bar. The exams will be the same, and the demands the same. All they are doing is removing homework and doing that in schools instead most likely. So freaking what? As for the world catching up to Europe and surpassing.. yes, that happens when the rest of the world gets an education system it did not have before... but Europe is still ahead on the US according to most metrics in education.. ups.

    What you and other Americans dont seem to understand is that French children leave school at 5 to 6 pm, and then have to do a couple of hours of homework.. so when are they suppose to play and be social with other kids... from 8 to 9 when they have to goto bed? Point is, French school children have long hours.. yes only 4 days a week thanks to Sarkozy, but they have very long hours compared to other nations. There education is highly concentrated, vs other countries that have 5 or 6 days a week but much fewer hours a day.

    I'm very much a "work to live" person myself, probably to my own detriment at times, but I don't begrudge those who wish to go the extra step and scheme to pull them back to my level.
    Congrats, then you are an European!
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    Re: French president pushing homework ban as part of ed reforms

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Pathetic nationalistic arrogance.
    Well if that ain't the pot calling the kettle black.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: French president pushing homework ban as part of ed reforms

    So, what brings this about? Did the Islamists make this demand and the French President capitulated?

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    Re: French president pushing homework ban as part of ed reforms

    This is a bit intersting. That France actually had a higher income increase then USA is you take away the richest 1 %.

    Economist's View: Mean vs. Median Income Growth

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    Re: French president pushing homework ban as part of ed reforms

    Why can't this work you can easily just do things in class, it truly isn't that hard. They also want children to do homework in class so that the teacher can help them aswell. We had to debate this in my French class.

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    Re: French president pushing homework ban as part of ed reforms

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    The whole thread was based on an attack Hollande and France pure and simple.
    Would it make you feel better if we pretended it was Namibia, instead?

    Geez, if you can't grasp concept over butt-hurt nationalism, there's really no point in even attempting to discuss.
    If you claim sexual harassment to be wrong, yet you defend anyone on your side for any reason,
    then you are a hypocrite and everything you say on the matter is just babble.

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    Re: French president pushing homework ban as part of ed reforms

    my problem with this portion of the french education reforms is the underlying premise

    students who have parents who coach them with their homework out-perform students without such parental support
    voila, eliminate the homework and the accompanying parental assistance and the high performing kids will become lower performing students like those with little parental involvement
    is that really an objective france needs to be seeking

    in the USA there is a huge digital divide. the haves enjoy access to computers and the internet at home
    the have nots only have access to the school library - when they are in school
    that is a massive advantage for the students with computer resources
    if we were going to apply this french reform 'logic', we would prohibit the students who have access to a computer and the web the use of those resources the have nots are without
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
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    Re: French president pushing homework ban as part of ed reforms

    Quote Originally Posted by Rainman05 View Post
    Ok.

    Everybody PAY ATTENTION. THIS is a socialist measure through and through.
    Dumbing down is the best way to create more socialists, but you can bet that the elites won't be paying much attention to these changes.

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