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    Re: French president pushing homework ban as part of ed reforms

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    French president pushing homework ban as part of ed reforms





    I really don't know what to write. Is this even real? Are you freaking kidding me?

    Hollande wants to punish kids for having involved parents out of "fairness"?

    So is he going to ban parenting next? It's really no more absurd than banning homework.
    French children are in school longer hours than most countries. Their daily school time is at minimum.. some even more.. from 8:30 am to 4:30 pm on a week day. Burnout rates are quite high according to many.. just saying. They are also looking into expanding number of days (less vacation).

    On top of that the quality of teachers is extremely high, since bad teachers are actually kicked out.. I know shock horror.

    The French higher education system is also extremely harsh when compared to other countries.. longer hours, more exams, higher requirements and so on.
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    Re: French president pushing homework ban as part of ed reforms

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    French children are in school longer hours than most countries. Their daily school time is at minimum.. some even more.. from 8:30 am to 4:30 pm on a week day. Burnout rates are quite high according to many.. just saying. They are also looking into expanding number of days (less vacation).

    On top of that the quality of teachers is extremely high, since bad teachers are actually kicked out.. I know shock horror.

    The French higher education system is also extremely harsh when compared to other countries.. longer hours, more exams, higher requirements and so on.
    All evidenced by the amazing accomplishments of French scientists, business people, and innovators.

    LOL, please.

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    Re: French president pushing homework ban as part of ed reforms

    Education is important and a priority....

    So instead of helping those kids that don't get help from their parents, we're instead going to make it so that no one gets help from their parents.

    ....because that makes sense in terms of helping better education.

    Those dastardly parents, being greedy and unfair by spending time helping their kids.

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    Re: French president pushing homework ban as part of ed reforms

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    All evidenced by the amazing accomplishments of French scientists, business people, and innovators.

    LOL, please.
    Louis Pasteur. Marie Curie.

    Granted it was long ago. Just saying they are great French scientists.

    They managed to build Airbus (in cooperation with others). Sodexho food service is also a large French business.

    So they have achieved in science and business. I'm not saying you're wrong about homework and Hollande, but to say there are no French accomplishments in science or business is wrong.


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    Re: French president pushing homework ban as part of ed reforms

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    All evidenced by the amazing accomplishments of French scientists, business people, and innovators.

    LOL, please.
    What the hell does that have to do with it? I was just pointing out that on average French children are in school far longer than most other western industrialised nations.

    As for your comment about the French.. typical arrogant bull**** from an American.
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    Re: French president pushing homework ban as part of ed reforms

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    What the hell does that have to do with it? I was just pointing out that on average French children are in school far longer than most other western industrialised nations.

    As for your comment about the French.. typical arrogant bull**** from an American.
    8-4 is about standard for school, don't know what you're really talking about there. All you have here is nothing more than your standard "I hate America!" attitude which I have yet to see you go 1 thread without indulging.
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    Re: French president pushing homework ban as part of ed reforms

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    What the hell does that have to do with it? I was just pointing out that on average French children are in school far longer than most other western industrialised nations.

    As for your comment about the French.. typical arrogant bull**** from an American.
    My kids go to school from 8-3:30, then it's two hours soccer practice, and 2-3 hours of homework, along with about 5+ hours of homework on the weekend along with league games and other activity.

    My kids are like most kids in America. There's nothing exceptional about these French kids, other than it looks like their nights and weekends are about to be free of homework.

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    Re: French president pushing homework ban as part of ed reforms

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Louis Pasteur. Marie Curie.

    Granted it was long ago. Just saying they are great French scientists.

    They managed to build Airbus (in cooperation with others). Sodexho food service is also a large French business.

    So they have achieved in science and business. I'm not saying you're wrong about homework and Hollande, but to say there are no French accomplishments in science or business is wrong.
    No doubt, France used to be great. As was England. That was before they began fading into afterthoughts, France much moreso than England.

    And we're starting to see the initial start of that here in America, too.

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    Re: French president pushing homework ban as part of ed reforms

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    8-4 is about standard for school, don't know what you're really talking about there. All you have here is nothing more than your standard "I hate America!" attitude which I have yet to see you go 1 thread without indulging.
    I have gone to an American school, a British school and a Danish school. It has nothing to do with "anti-Americanism". In the American school we started at 8 and was let out at 2pm. In the British school we started 8 and were let out at 3:30 to 4. The Danish school was 8 to 3.

    And in the French schools, the children start at 8:30 to 4:30 in the afternoon... like it or not that is a significant difference.
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    Re: French president pushing homework ban as part of ed reforms

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    My kids go to school from 8-3:30, then it's two hours soccer practice, and 2-3 hours of homework, along with about 5+ hours of homework on the weekend along with league games and other activity.

    My kids are like most kids in America. There's nothing exceptional about these French kids, other than it looks like their nights and weekends are about to be free of homework.
    In other words, French kids are more in school than yours.

    Edit: In fact I was wrong...

    http://www.france24.com/en/20121010-...-reform-france

    French children’s test scores are above the European average, but they suffer some of the longest working days on the continent, leaving school only at 5pm or 6pm.
    So it is even longer than I thought.
    Last edited by PeteEU; 10-19-12 at 11:43 AM.
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