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    Re: French president pushing homework ban as part of ed reforms

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    Indeed. Had you been just trolling you would not have fessed up to having created the graph yourself. I accept that entirely.


    Yes, I didn't understand that list of values; the declining percentages set against number of hours. What made you ascribe those values and how do they apply to the graph? What are those values on the Y axis, btw?
    I set 100 to be "full speed", so how much a student will learn if they have one hour of classes. The values represent how much they actually learn per hour if they work a certain amount of hours. For instance if they work 50 hours, then the actual output per hour is half of what they would do if they only had 1 hour.


    I would challenge, as I did, the position of the peak of the parabola at 50+ hours. I might accept that at graduate, or even under-graduate level, not at age 15.
    Actually my experience is that teens are better at working longer hours than adults are. We get tired, and get headaches. Kids/teens generally don't. They are doing very long hours in Shanghai, but Shanghai crushed all competition. If the peak was at for instance 40 hours, then Chinese kids should do worse as it is normal to do about 60 hours per week.

    Still, a useful and interesting exercise. I'm going to do some study and see if I can find research data to back up both your and my theories.
    Sounds good.

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    Re: French president pushing homework ban as part of ed reforms

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    while i appreciate your simile, it is without logic

    banning homework is like banning overtime despite the reality that regular hours are inadequate to accomplish the task
    Interesting, then this becomes like a project management issue, where instead of matching the demand with resources, they just steal some ... called "time" (of people who are easier recyclable).

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    Re: French president pushing homework ban as part of ed reforms

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    You only need one...

    1) US must always beat France in anything.
    The French hardly register in the US, or anywhere else for that matter. They're a minor player.

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    Re: French president pushing homework ban as part of ed reforms

    Quote Originally Posted by ab9924 View Post
    Interesting, then this becomes like a project management issue, where instead of matching the demand with resources, they just steal some ... called "time" (of people who are easier recyclable).
    Explain how one would "steal" time.
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    Re: French president pushing homework ban as part of ed reforms

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    The French hardly register in the US, or anywhere else for that matter. They're a minor player.
    As I have stated to PeteEU before, I have no hate towards France. I don't hate a country with nice weather, beautiful women, and really good food,.

    However, that does not mean I will never criticize France when they do stupid stuff. I promise, if US ever implement a 75% tax rate or ban homework, I will criticize US too. And in fact I already do, but on different cases such as immigration, corruption, unions and the electoral vote system. In fact I am probably nicer to France than the US, because France has just as much corruptions as the US, but I have never mentioned it.

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    Re: French president pushing homework ban as part of ed reforms

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    Explain how one would "steal" time.
    Stealing time is easy, typically it goes like the employee gets such tight project deadlines, that he can no way finish any of the work in 8 hour workdays, so he must use his free time at home, that he would be normally spending with his children or family, I guess. This is done regularly, on the books 8 hours are booked, but 12 hours of work is scheduled and expected to complete at the 8 hour schedule. This is how the private sector rolls, as a rule, and this is how they determine how many people to hire for a project.

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    Re: French president pushing homework ban as part of ed reforms

    As just a concept, an attempt to put all French kids on the same level with zero help coming from parents will not accomplish anything. Parents that want to help will do so homework assigned or not. They will take an involvement no matter what the hell government says. What an idiotic proposal.

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