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Christian Group Finds Gay Agenda in an Anti-Bullying Day [W:159]

clownboy said:
Your own partisan slip is showing. Nowhere has it been shown that the AFA doesn't want to stop bullying, or endorse bullying. There are more than this one anti-bullying program. I haven't seen where the AFA opposes them all.
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I'm saying they oppose this program, the sole purpose of which is to reduce bullying, and they do so for dumbass reasons. In what way is that partisan? Put another way, in what way is their position remotely supportable?
 
OK, general question. When Jesus said "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone" he was stopping the crowd from stoning the woman who committed adultery, right?

Was hw bashing Jews , or advocating adultery?
 
Aderleth said:
I'm saying they oppose this program, the sole purpose of which is to reduce bullying, and they do so for dumbass reasons. In what way is that partisan? Put another way, in what way is their position remotely supportable?
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The clue that your position is partisan is a framing of the group's reasons ("dumbass reasons"). Their position is easily supportable in that NOWHERE has the AFA said or hinted that bullying of gays is acceptable. Their objection to this ONE particular anti-bullying program is that they believe the specifics of the program legitimize homosexual behavior.

To be clear, I'm not saying I buy into their argument, their belief - but it's very easy to see the haters hate (and thus far here, it's not been the AFA).
 
clownboy said:
To be clear, I'm not saying I buy into their argument, their belief - but it's very easy to see the haters hate (and thus far here, it's not been the AFA).
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I am amazed that conservatives have adopted the weak-willed, weak-kneed, effete rhetoric that used to belong to the Left.

Let's ask ourselves: what's actually wrong with hatred? Hate can be a tonic, a purgative emotion, provided it isn't borne out of weakness. It certainly can be a productive feeling. It's decidedly a masculine one.

Dismissing someone as a 'hater' smacks of weakness.
 
rocket88 said:
OK, general question. When Jesus said "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone" he was stopping the crowd from stoning the woman who committed adultery, right?

Was hw bashing Jews , or advocating adultery?
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Excellent, that right there is an example of addressing the AFA's position without assuming partisan falsehoods. And I agree, asking someone to sit with a group of folks not in their clique, even if one of them is homosexual, does not legitimize homosexual behavior. Especially when it's done in an anti-bullying framework.
 
clownboy said:
The clue that your position is partisan is a framing of the group's reasons ("dumbass reasons"). Their position is easily supportable in that NOWHERE has the AFA said or hinted that bullying of gays is acceptable. Their objection to this ONE particular anti-bullying program is that they believe the specifics of the program legitimize homosexual behavior.
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This is what the AFA has to say about the program:

""Mix It Up" day is an entry-level "diversity" program designed specifically by SPCL to establish the acceptance of homosexuality into public schools, including elementary and junior high schools." Schools respond to 'Mix It Up' day, SPLC exposed

This is the website for the program:

What is Mix It Up at Lunch Day? | Teaching Tolerance

So yes, the people running the AFA are partisan assholes, and they oppose this program for dumbass, largely delusional reasons. By all means find me a specific reason why that's not obviously the case.
 
Only Christians are allowed to be persecuted, Aderleth.
 
Einzige said:
I am amazed that conservatives have adopted the weak-willed, weak-kneed, effete rhetoric that used to belong to the Left.

Let's ask ourselves: what's actually wrong with hatred? Hate can be a tonic, a purgative emotion, provided it isn't borne out of weakness. It certainly can be a productive feeling. It's decidedly a masculine one.

Dismissing someone as a 'hater' smacks of weakness.
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What nonsense, this isn't about left and right. You tried to make the issue something it's not, essentially lying about the opinions of an org you detest. You've pulled the religion card and the hate came spewing out, now you want to excuse that. All that is YOUR problem, not anyone else's.
 
clownboy said:
What nonsense, this isn't about left and right. You tried to make the issue something it's not, essentially lying about the opinions of an org you detest. You've pulled the religion card and the hate came spewing out, now you want to excuse that. All that is YOUR problem, not anyone else's.
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I'm not approaching it from left or right. I'm approaching it from the Christian need to feel persecuted, the overwhelming urge to retain the status of martyr for themselves and to deny it to others.

Those who pretend to be victimized deserve utter destruction.
 
Aderleth said:
This is what the AFA has to say about the program:

""Mix It Up" day is an entry-level "diversity" program designed specifically by SPCL to establish the acceptance of homosexuality into public schools, including elementary and junior high schools." Schools respond to 'Mix It Up' day, SPLC exposed

This is the website for the program:

What is Mix It Up at Lunch Day? | Teaching Tolerance

So yes, the people running the AFA are partisan assholes, and they oppose this program for dumbass, largely delusional reasons. By all means find me a specific reason why that's not obviously the case.
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You're just repeating your hate-filled screed while trying to excuse your hatred.
 
clownboy said:
You're just repeating your hate-filled screed while trying to excuse your hatred.
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As you excuse your weakness and effeminacy.
 
Einzige said:
I'm not approaching it from left or right. I'm approaching it from the Christian need to feel persecuted, the overwhelming urge to retain the status of martyr for themselves and to deny it to others.

Those who pretend to be victimized deserve utter destruction.
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You're just digging yourself in deeper and your excuses for your own hatred have become more and more obvious.

Originally Posted by Einzige
I am amazed that conservatives have adopted the weak-willed, weak-kneed, effete rhetoric that used to belong to the Left.
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clownboy said:
You're just repeating your hate-filled screed while trying to excuse your hatred.
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No, I'm pointing out the massive dissonance between what the AFA says about this program, and what it actually is; then reaching the obvious conclusion. Again: prove me wrong. You asserted a couple of posts ago, that the AFA opposes this particular program because of its specifics. Please demonstrate to me how you reached that conclusion. Evidence would be nice.
 
clownboy said:
You're just digging yourself in deeper and your excuses for your own hatred have become more and more obvious.
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I make no excuses for my hatred. I'm not a liberal; I embrace the passions. My hatred for the weak pseudo-men of the Christian cult runs deep.
 
Einzige said:
As you excuse your weakness and effeminacy.
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Really stuck the truth didn't I? In fact your attempts at insult reveal more about you and your real thoughts in your goto choice of insults.
 
madman said:
Answer each question
Do you agree with the AFA's stance in the topic?
Should kids be able to bully gays?
Did you side with chick fil a
Are you against gay marriage?
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I think you need to step away from this thread and re-read it later through less partisan eyes.

We're actually talking about an "anti-bullying" thread where you openly acknowledge you hate Christians and took part in repeatedly making derogatory statements about them. Einzinge has escalated things considerably in admitting he would like to see Christian children hurt and it is probably a safe bet you agree with him.

Despite all that, you want to know if I agree with the AFA in keeping Christian children home for this "anti-bullying" stuff?

I think it's a pretty great idea to keep all children away from any forum that allows assholes like you to verbally abuse and possibly physically assault children in the name of "anti-bullying".
 
clownboy said:
You're just digging yourself in deeper and your excuses for your own hatred have become more and more obvious.
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Einzige said:
I make no excuses for my hatred. I'm not a liberal; I embrace the passions. My hatred for the weak pseudo-men of the Christian cult runs deep.
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Clownboy, what exactly is wrong with his hatred?
 
Donahue said:
Einzinge has escalated things considerably in admitting he would like to see Christian children hurt
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I was only giving you the opinion of this other closeted homosexual:



I thought you might see in him a kindred spirit.
 
Aderleth said:
No, I'm pointing out the massive dissonance between what the AFA says about this program, and what it actually is; then reaching the obvious conclusion. Again: prove me wrong. You asserted a couple of posts ago, that the AFA opposes this particular program because of its specifics. Please demonstrate to me how you reached that conclusion. Evidence would be nice.
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You're not reading what I'm posting, already answered all this. I do not believe this particular program promotes homosexual behavior. However, the AFA does. The point is, their opposition to this one program does not mean they are pro-bullying of gay kids. Nor does it mean their reason for opposing the program are "dumbass". May seem that way to you, but that is due to your obvious bias and has nothing whatsoever to do with the AFA.
 
Einzige said:
I'm not any tougher than the next fellow. I just look tough in comparison to you because I don't go out of my way to make myself look like the persecuted victim of a fallen, sinful world.
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I love internet tough guys.
 
Einzige said:
I was only giving you the opinion of this other closeted homosexual:



I thought you might see in him a kindred spirit.
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I'm a closeted homosexual because you want to beat up Christian children?

:roll:

I love internet tough guys.

I think we all know what sort of a life a man who flocks to an internet message board to talk about beating up children leads.
 
Donahue said:
I'm a closeted homosexual because you want to beat up Christian children?
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Would you rather I beat them or Steve Anderson kill them?

Who's a bigger threat to the poor THINKOFTHECHILDREN?!?!?!?
 
rocket88 said:
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I am a Christian, butt-wipe!

I don't hate Christians, I hate assholes. They're acting like assholes because they think it should be OK to pick on people they don't like.
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No one is talking about picking on anyone but you guys though.
 
zgoldsmith23 said:
Clownboy, what exactly is wrong with his hatred?
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Took him half the thread and a lot of posts to man up to it. For all his talk of the weak-willed, he had a lot of excuses for his hate (it's everyone else's fault he hates). As I said in the very beginning, he's welcome to his own hate, but to use that to characterize others as hate filled, or to just plain lie about their motives to further that self hate - that's when I called him on it.
 
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