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    re: Christian Group Finds Gay Agenda in an Anti-Bullying Day [W:159]

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    Why are people who are different so scary?
    YOu answered your own question. It is part of the human condition for most of us to fear the unknown or what we do not understand. You can see that clearly on this or any other debate site. Intelligence has nothing to do with it. There are just as many intelligent 'scared" people as dumb ones.
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    re: Christian Group Finds Gay Agenda in an Anti-Bullying Day [W:159]

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    If their religion leads them to believe homosexuality is a sin, they have the right to pass those beliefs on to their children. I don't see the problem here.

    Most world religions don't accept homosexuality.

    The parents are not being violent, they're not being disruptive, they're simply talking about skipping a day of school.
    You miss the entire point of this thread. These people use religon to thier own ends. God hates no one and It says so in many places in the New and Old Testament. There are even commandments against judging your neighbor and not loving them. NO one who is religious or a person of faith can come out against a child of God and still claim they are so.

    "I am the God of love come and follow me". You can argue my points all you want but if a person says they believe in God - They must prove it and live according to the word every day. Otherwise its just smoke and mirrors to acheive a personal end.
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    re: Christian Group Finds Gay Agenda in an Anti-Bullying Day [W:159]

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    Nonsense. Most sacred writings of the vast majority of world religions have virtually nothing to say about it. If you're talking about religious leaders of the Abrahamic religions, then you may have a point.
    This is also incorrect. Most Jewish sects accept gays. There are also many variants of the Christians that do or have no real opinion one way or the other. Its the self absorbed right wing of the christians who claim to follow the Word that do.
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    re: Christian Group Finds Gay Agenda in an Anti-Bullying Day [W:159]

    Quote Originally Posted by wolfman24 View Post
    This is also incorrect. Most Jewish sects accept gays. There are also many variants of the Christians that do or have no real opinion one way or the other. Its the self absorbed right wing of the christians who claim to follow the Word that do.
    I said, "...may have a point", not that I agreed that he would be correct.
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    re: Christian Group Finds Gay Agenda in an Anti-Bullying Day [W:159]

    Quote Originally Posted by wolfman24 View Post
    YOu answered your own question. It is part of the human condition for most of us to fear the unknown or what we do not understand. You can see that clearly on this or any other debate site. Intelligence has nothing to do with it. There are just as many intelligent 'scared" people as dumb ones.
    Intelligent people understand that there's nothing to be afraid of. Or maybe it's not intelligence. Maybe some people are just cowards.
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    re: Christian Group Finds Gay Agenda in an Anti-Bullying Day [W:159]

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    If their religion leads them to believe homosexuality is a sin, they have the right to pass those beliefs on to their children. I don't see the problem here.

    Most world religions don't accept homosexuality.

    The parents are not being violent, they're not being disruptive, they're simply talking about skipping a day of school.
    How you make the leap from 'opposes bullying' to 'overtly supports homosexuality' is beyond me, unless your default premise is that gays are rightfully the subjects of bullying.
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    re: Christian Group Finds Gay Agenda in an Anti-Bullying Day [W:159]

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    I said, "...may have a point", not that I agreed that he would be correct.
    Sorry my bad. Try and do better next time.
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    re: Christian Group Finds Gay Agenda in an Anti-Bullying Day [W:159]

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    I get annoyed by the hypocrisy in threads like this. You guys say it's about accepting people for who they are.

    What is this thread? It's yet another opportunity for haters to tee off on Christianity, on religion, on traditional values. It's an opportunity for haters to spew their hate.

    You guys are no better than the AFA or whoever you're whining about. Hypocrites.
    This is nonsense. Any religious doctrine/belief that encourages ostracism, hatred, or incendiary behavior against any group is intolerable. Viewing homosexuality as sinful is one thing. Harping on homosexuality so significantly that you would refute anti-bullying measures against homosexuals is sickening, hypocritical, and entirely unjustified from a biblical standpoint. It is irrational and indefensible. Especially when issues the bible is MUCH clearer on are largely swept under the rug, tolerated without incident, or blatantly ignored. This is a hateful, fear-based targeting of homosexuals without cause. Calling them out for it is hardly hypocritical when you're coming from a standpoint of tolerance.
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    re: Christian Group Finds Gay Agenda in an Anti-Bullying Day [W:159]

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    Intelligent people understand that there's nothing to be afraid of. Or maybe it's not intelligence. Maybe some people are just cowards.
    Pasch - There is a difference between intelligence and understanding. My wife is extremely intelligent but almost all of what she knows is book learning. She took the tests and got good grades.
    But when it comes to practical application to solve a problem, she is generally lost as a kitten.
    Then there are people who are intelligent and have a good education and a "good" job but never let the understanding part get in the way of thier personal beliefs or attitudes.

    That is why I phrased it the way I did. Intelligence does not always = comprehension
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    re: Christian Group Finds Gay Agenda in an Anti-Bullying Day [W:159]

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    I get annoyed by the hypocrisy in threads like this. You guys say it's about accepting people for who they are.

    What is this thread? It's yet another opportunity for haters to tee off on Christianity, on religion, on traditional values. It's an opportunity for haters to spew their hate.

    You guys are no better than the AFA or whoever you're whining about. Hypocrites.
    No one is hating on Christianity or even religion in general here. We're hating on immoral douchebag behaviour, on hate-mongering, on HURTING PEOPLE who are not hurting you. Until you get that, you will always be behind the curve. There is no war on religion, much as I and some others might like there to be. There is only a war on douchebags, and these happen to be religious douchebags.
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