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Fidel Castro Hired Nazi SS to Train Military, German Intel Documents Reveal

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Fidel Castro Hired Nazi SS to Train Military, German Intel Documents Reveal
http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/news/2012/10/15/fidel-castro-hired-nazi-ss-to-train-troops-german-intel-documents-reveal/

Published October 15, 2012 / Fox News Latino

In 1962, then President of Cuba, Fidel Castro recruited two former Nazi SS soldiers to help train his military at the height of the Cuban Missile Crisis, according to declassified documents released by Germany's secret intelligence agency, the BND (Bundesnachrichtendienst).

Castro invited four SS officers to Havana, where he offered them quadruple the average salary a German made at that time in exchange for their expertise. Two of the four accepted his offer, the documents, dated October 26, 1962, reveal.

The men served in Adolf Hitler's Waffen-SS, a force separate from the army and known as the armed wing of the Nazi party.
.This news would surprise the Liberals and Progressive that support and admire the Castroit regime, but it don’t surprise most Cubans. The released of German documents prove without a doubt the hire of Adolf Hitler's Waffen-SS officers and the efforts to hire German paratroopers and technicians.
 
.This news would surprise the Liberals and Progressive that support and admire the Castroit regime, but it don’t surprise most Cubans. The released of German documents prove without a doubt the hire of Adolf Hitler's Waffen-SS officers and the efforts to hire German paratroopers and technicians.

Yes... and the US openly hired former Nazi scientists to build us the rockets we used to bomb the Vietnamese. Everybody made a dime off Germans after WWII. :shrug:
 
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It is not surprise at all that the Communist regimes were hypocritical, they indeed sheltered Nazi war criminal. When you want to enslave and oppress your people, money is never an issue. In Castro’s case, his “objectives” were to keep his grip over the Cuban people no matter what. Castro’s real ideology was to hold on power at any cost and the worship of his ego.
 
And so what. Pinochet also did it, and he was hardly a communist. Plus it was with the full backing of the US.
 
And so what. Pinochet also did it, and he was hardly a communist. Plus it was with the full backing of the US.

The Brits even released the Japanese POWs to keep the Vietnamese under control until the French could take over again. We did the same in Italy allowing Fascist generals to help finish off the leftist factions of the resistance.
 
.This news would surprise the Liberals and Progressive that support and admire the Castroit regime, but it don’t surprise most Cubans. The released of German documents prove without a doubt the hire of Adolf Hitler's Waffen-SS officers and the efforts to hire German paratroopers and technicians.

Why is this news? Who cares?
 
He hired SS types just like we did. That makes the US and Cuba even, in the hypocrisy department.
 
Where were these people hiding for fourteen years before being hired?
 
The US S did offer asylum to German scientists after WWII, but they were in fact scientists, not Nazi SS war criminals. In contrast, Russia capture and force most of the German scientists to perform work for them. Countries like Russia, Egypt and Argentina benefited from hiring former Nazis war criminals.
 
The US S did offer asylum to German scientists after WWII, but they were in fact scientists, not Nazi SS war criminals. In contrast, Russia capture and force most of the German scientists to perform work for them. Countries like Russia, Egypt and Argentina benefited from hiring former Nazis war criminals.

Be them professionals in science, war, or administration I dont really see the difference they had talent that could be exploited by society, and it was. As strange as it may sound if they had sat in jail and thier talents had gone to waste I feel it would only compound thier debt to society, at least in work they could start to pay down that debt if only a bit.
 
Quick question were these people high ranking SS officials or just regular soldiers?
 
Sandokan, every single one of your posts are about Cuba... why aren't you posting this stuff in the appropriate forum? International>Latin America?
 
Seem that the gap between the extreme left and the extreme right is very small, indeed they find common ground in a totalitarian dictatorship. If you're going to recruit people, try to recruit the best. Nothing like the Nazi SS re-education and brutality training program to build your political and secret police into a Gestapo, like Fidel Castro did. They will be right at home under the Castro fascist regime these days. No wonder Castro admire and imitated Adolph Hitler fascism.
 
Seem that the gap between the extreme left and the extreme right is very small, indeed they find common ground in a totalitarian dictatorship. If you're going to recruit people, try to recruit the best. Nothing like the Nazi SS re-education and brutality training program to build your political and secret police into a Gestapo, like Fidel Castro did. They will be right at home under the Castro fascist regime these days. No wonder Castro admire and imitated Adolph Hitler fascism.

Difference is, Castro didn't open Auschwitz in Havana, NASA didn't round up "undesirables" for unethical human experiments, the USSR didn't bomb england with thier rockets. They all benefited from Nazi human capital, not to mention Germany, and other European countries, and none of them became the Nazis.

Just what would be proper, waste thier training and education by murdering everyone associated with the Nazi government or party? Things are just not that simple.
 
Yes... and the US openly hired former Nazi scientists to build us the rockets we used to bomb the Vietnamese. Everybody made a dime off Germans after WWII. :shrug:

So Castro is alright by you. Got it!
 
Where were these people hiding for fourteen years before being hired?

South America, mostly. The Nazi's had a very elaborate escape plan for their officers, in order that they survive long enough to rebuild the Nazi party in secret.
 
Let's see....under operation paperclip, we got several rocket scientists out of the Nuremberg trials, and they developed our space program, in addition to our nuclear missile program. We also got a couple aerospace engineers, which is why we developed our own jet engine powered planes so shortly after the Germans, post WWII. There are conspiracy theories surrounding a few other Nazi scientists who went missing, and the sudden emergence of the CIA mind altering program that developed LSD.

But in short, thanks to the Nazi's, we landed a dude on the moon...BEFORE the Russians...we developed a stealth bomber (which was essentially in development by the germans before the end of WWII), we invented a drug (allegedly) that lead to an entire social movement in the US, and, never forget...the VW Beetle. Which, of course, led us to the Porsche 911, one of the greatest things with four wheels.
 
The recruitment of German scientists began after the surrender of Germany in May of 1945. US President Harry Truman, convinced that German scientists could help America's postwar efforts, approved the Operation Paperclip which has the purpose of recruiting German scientists, in August 1945. Its main purpose was to benefit from German scientific knowledge, and at the same time avoid that Russia benefit from it.

Truman expressly excluded anyone found “to have been a member of the Nazi Party, and more than a ‘nominal participant’ in its activities, or an active supporter of Nazi militarism.” The War Department's Joint Intelligence Objectives Agency was in charge of conducting background investigations of the scientists. Based on these investigations the US government granted the scientists security clearance to work in the US. Despite the repeated and emphatic official statements that none of the Paperclip personnel were ardent Nazis or alleged war criminals, the critics assumed the Fascist nature of their past behavior and affirmed their guilt.
 
The US head hunted ex Nazi V1/V2 rocket scientist Von Braun after WW2 ended - not for trial ladies and gentlemen, but to set up the rocket programs of NASA

No Nazi rocket scientist, and the USA would have been even further behind the Soviets at the time

Amazing how myopic the US public get with their righteousness and supreme hypocrisy
 
.This news would surprise the Liberals and Progressive that support and admire the Castroit regime, but it don’t surprise most Cubans. The released of German documents prove without a doubt the hire of Adolf Hitler's Waffen-SS officers and the efforts to hire German paratroopers and technicians.
Why wouldn't he? The SS was an elite military organization, they wanted to avoid persecution, and Castro wanted a better army. Makes sense to me. We did it, the British did it, the Russians did it, as did everyone else who could get their hands on nazi's willing to give out beneficial information and research.

Doesn't change anything, and it doesn't surprise me at all that anyone would hire the SS to help them unsuck their armed forces.
 
So Castro is alright by you. Got it!

What did poor little Castro do to you and your imperial fascist US military that slaughters the defenseless and theives their resources on behalf of its corporate masters?

You couldnt buy him off like all the other tyrants the US purchases and blackmails EVEN TODAY and then betrays them when their use by date expires (like Mubarak, Sadam Hussein, Gadaffi etc etc etc)

the level of myopic hypocrisy in here is breath taking - lol
 
Yes... and the US openly hired former Nazi scientists to build us the rockets we used to bomb the Vietnamese. Everybody made a dime off Germans after WWII. :shrug:

In the interest of clarity, the rocket scientists were used weren't members of the Shutzstaffel.

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In the interest of truthfulness, Operation Paperclip was set up to remove and refresh the Nazi pasts of 104 German rocket scientists, including Werner Von Braun himself.
 
In the interest of truthfulness, Operation Paperclip was set up to remove and refresh the Nazi pasts of 104 German rocket scientists, including Werner Von Braun himself.

Yeah, that's what Paperclip was designed to do. :roll:

Operation Paperclip was the Office of Strategic Services (OSS) program used to recruit the scientists of Nazi Germany for employment by the United States in the aftermath of World War II (1939–45). It was conducted by the Joint Intelligence Objectives Agency (JIOA), and in the context of the burgeoning Soviet–American Cold War (1945–91). One purpose of Operation Paperclip was to deny German scientific knowledge and expertise to the USSR,[1] the UK,[2] and (divided) Germany itself.

Operation Paperclip - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
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