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    Re: Fidel Castro Hired Nazi SS to Train Military, German Intel Documents Reveal

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Slaves. did not. build the rockets. Time to figure out that personal attacks won't make your falsehoods turn into truth.
    Your lack of knowledge of world war II is truly frightening. Where do you think the rockets were built? In the black forest by elves?
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    Re: Fidel Castro Hired Nazi SS to Train Military, German Intel Documents Reveal

    Quote Originally Posted by head of joaquin View Post
    Keep digging:

    Guy Morand, a French resistance fighter who was a prisoner in Dora, testified in 1995 that after an apparent sabotage attempt:

    Without even listening to my explanations, [von Braun] ordered the Meister to have me given 25 strokes...Then, judging that the strokes weren't sufficiently hard, he ordered I be flogged more vigorously...von Braun made me translate that I deserved much more, that in fact I deserved to be hanged...I would say his cruelty, of which I was personally a victim, are, I would say, an eloquent testimony to his Nazi fanaticism.[39]

    Robert Cazabonne, another French prisoner, testified that von Braun stood by and watched as prisoners were hung by chains from hoists.[40] Von Braun claimed he "never saw any kind of abuse or killing" and only "heard rumors...that some prisoners had been hanged in the underground galleries".[41]


    Wernher von Braun - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    I can guarantee you that this sort of eye witness testimony cuts no ice with the Braun worshippers. I can only conclude that they must agree with his tactics for building the unguided rockets whose sole purpose was to land indiscrimately in civilian territory and kill as many as possible. Not even the pretense that they were attacking military targets.
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    Re: Fidel Castro Hired Nazi SS to Train Military, German Intel Documents Reveal

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The difference? Really???


    A laboratory and a factory are two very different animals.
    So what? Von Braun was responsible and in charge of both. He was the HMFIC.
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    Re: Fidel Castro Hired Nazi SS to Train Military, German Intel Documents Reveal

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    So what? Von Braun was responsible and in charge of both. He was the HMFIC.
    I told you he'd actually pull a Beck and argue it matters.

    It's what conservatives have to do when facts explode their demon-haunted worldview.

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    Re: Fidel Castro Hired Nazi SS to Train Military, German Intel Documents Reveal

    Quote Originally Posted by shlunka View Post
    Certainly not all German soldiers followed this behavior, though the excuse of "just following orders" is rather pathetic, at least some German soldiers could have been unaware or deluded as to the wishes of Hitler?
    Of course not "all" German soldiers were War Criminals but if you look at the psychology of the average German soldier you will see that their treatment of people in lands they occupied was barbaric. They considered anyone who wasn't German sub-human. Nazi Propaganda was very effective at dehumanizing people.

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    Re: Fidel Castro Hired Nazi SS to Train Military, German Intel Documents Reveal

    Quote Originally Posted by head of joaquin View Post
    You really need to try harder if you're going to defend a Nazi war criminal.
    I'm not defending a Nazi war criminal. I'm defending historical fact and the facts are, slaves didn't build V-2 rockets, nor were they forced to work in Von Braun's lab.

    Let's not sacrifice historical accuracy in an attempt to be politically correct.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Fidel Castro Hired Nazi SS to Train Military, German Intel Documents Reveal

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    Your lack of knowledge of world war II is truly frightening. Where do you think the rockets were built? In the black forest by elves?
    They weren't built with slave labor.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Fidel Castro Hired Nazi SS to Train Military, German Intel Documents Reveal

    Quote Originally Posted by Sandokan View Post
    .This news would surprise the Liberals and Progressive that support and admire the Castroit regime, but it donít surprise most Cubans. The released of German documents prove without a doubt the hire of Adolf Hitler's Waffen-SS officers and the efforts to hire German paratroopers and technicians.

    Thankfully this would never ever happen in America. Our morals would never let us hire ex Nazis to work for the US government.

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    Re: Fidel Castro Hired Nazi SS to Train Military, German Intel Documents Reveal

    Quote Originally Posted by shlunka View Post
    Certainly not all German soldiers followed this behavior, though the excuse of "just following orders" is rather pathetic, at least some German soldiers could have been unaware or deluded as to the wishes of Hitler?
    It's not all that pathetic when you consider that following orders was 1) a big deal in the Wehrmacht and 2) it was a matter of self preservation, because summary executions were perfectly acceptable in the Wehrmacht and even moreso in the SS.

    The Wehrmacht swore a blood oath to Hitler and were bound by their personal honor to stand by that oath. Their personal honor outweighed right and wrong.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Fidel Castro Hired Nazi SS to Train Military, German Intel Documents Reveal

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    Of course not "all" German soldiers were War Criminals but if you look at the psychology of the average German soldier you will see that their treatment of people in lands they occupied was barbaric. They considered anyone who wasn't German sub-human. Nazi Propaganda was very effective at dehumanizing people.
    German soldiers committed the same atrocities in WW1. It didn't have as much to do with Nazi propaganda as it did the German culture in general.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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