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    Americans Alvin Roth and Lloyd Shapley Win Nobel Economics Prize

    Americans won. So any negatives this time?

    (STOCKHOLM) — Americans Alvin Roth and Lloyd Shapley have won the Nobel economics prize.
    The Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences cited the two economists for “the theory of stable allocations and the practice of market design.”
    The Nobel Memorial Prize in Economic Sciences was the last of the 2012 Nobel awards to be announced.


    Read more: Americans Alvin Roth and Lloyd Shapley Win Nobel Economics Prize | World | TIME.com

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    Americans Alvin Roth and Lloyd Shapley Win Nobel Economics Prize

    Allocations and market design. Muahahahaha.
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    Re: Americans Alvin Roth and Lloyd Shapley Win Nobel Economics Prize


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    Re: Americans Alvin Roth and Lloyd Shapley Win Nobel Economics Prize

    Quote Originally Posted by RDS View Post
    Americans won. So any negatives this time?
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    Re: Americans Alvin Roth and Lloyd Shapley Win Nobel Economics Prize

    Quote Originally Posted by RDS View Post
    Americans won. So any negatives this time?
    So...cool. I don't really pay much attention to economics in that much detail though so....cool?

    Also, nice somewhat pathetic attempt to compare two random Americans to "The EU" as its own entity. CLEARLY the only reason for complaint in the other thread was because people hate the EU but two random americans are "AMERICA" as an equal entity to the EU and this is CLEARLY comparable.


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    Re: Americans Alvin Roth and Lloyd Shapley Win Nobel Economics Prize

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    So...cool. I don't really pay much attention to economics in that much detail though so....cool?

    Also, nice somewhat pathetic attempt to compare two random Americans to "The EU" as its own entity. CLEARLY the only reason for complaint in the other thread was because people hate the EU but two random americans are "AMERICA" as an equal entity to the EU and this is CLEARLY comparable.

    Congrats to the two americans and the EU. Have to agree the peace prize has always been a controversy for years.

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    Re: Americans Alvin Roth and Lloyd Shapley Win Nobel Economics Prize

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    CLEARLY the only reason for complaint in the other thread was because people hate the EU
    Glad to see you concede that there was no rational argument against the award to the EU, just a visceral hatred at work.

    Also, given that you "don't pay much attention to economics", you describe the award to Roth and Shapley as "cool" purely because they're American? That seems as irrational as you guys call PeteEU's perceived anti-Americanism. Why not take nationalism out of the equation and applaud or condemn on some more rational basis?
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    Re: Americans Alvin Roth and Lloyd Shapley Win Nobel Economics Prize

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    Glad to see you concede that there was no rational argument against the award to the EU, just a visceral hatred at work.
    Oh absolutely. That's exactly what I stated. I mean, that was clear. It's not like anyone uses a eye roll smiley to indicate sarcasm. You're absolutely correct. I was being TOTALLY serious and honestly suggesting that complaints only came about because we hate those evil evil euros. Thanks so much for your wonderful insightful response to my totally serious on the surface statement.

    </sarcastaball>

    Also, given that you "don't pay much attention to economics", you describe the award to Roth and Shapley as "cool" purely because they're American?
    No, I describe the award as "cool" because I'm sure it's a cool honor to be awarded a Nobel Prize, especially the ones in science which generally seem to be regarded with a little more credability due to the typically clearer tangable reason than the peace prize. Could care less if they were American or Batswanan.

    That seems as irrational as you guys call PeteEU's perceived anti-Americanism. Why not take nationalism out of the equation and applaud or condemn on some more rational basis?
    The only irrational thing I'm seeing here is you immedietely simply jumping to the conclussion that this was some kind of country-centric response, seemingly out of your own seemingly sad need to tie yourself staunchly to your country to create some kind of "us vs them" countryism crusade in your mind.

    People criticize the Peace Prize choice almost every ****ing year. Yet, magically, when it is given to the EU as an actual entity and people...get this...criticize the Peace Prize it must simply be because of the obvious hate that all us evil vile ethnocentric americans have for Europeans. And clearly, when someone suggests that "hey, cool for them" to people who won one of the science nobel prizes...OBVIOUSLY they must be doing so because, you know, AMERICA...**** YEAH.

    Take the inferiority complex and victim mentality elsewhere, it's a foolish argument and rather laughable. You want to speak about irrational action...stop projecting your own geographical hangups and issues on others and judging their words based on your own prejucides and biases transferred onto them, because your arguments are the ones that are illogical.

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    Re: Americans Alvin Roth and Lloyd Shapley Win Nobel Economics Prize

    Quote Originally Posted by RDS View Post
    Americans won. So any negatives this time?
    Why should there be? It is interesting work that basically says the free market does no work... so if there was to be any negatives it would come from the American right.
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    Re: Americans Alvin Roth and Lloyd Shapley Win Nobel Economics Prize

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Oh absolutely. That's exactly what I stated. I mean, that was clear. It's not like anyone uses a eye roll smiley to indicate sarcasm. You're absolutely correct. I was being TOTALLY serious and honestly suggesting that complaints only came about because we hate those evil evil euros. Thanks so much for your wonderful insightful response to my totally serious on the surface statement.
    You'd have to be willfully blind or stupid not to have noticed the knee-jerk anti-Europeanism all over DP. The insult 'Eurotard' is to be found in virtually every thread of the Europe forum and countless other thread in the news fora. And you think none of that has anything to do with the visceral reactions to the NPP award to the EU?


    </sarcastaball>
    Don't know what that is, but it doesn't seem to be working.

    No, I describe the award as "cool" because I'm sure it's a cool honor to be awarded a Nobel Prize, especially the ones in science which generally seem to be regarded with a little more credability due to the typically clearer tangable reason than the peace prize. Could care less if they were American or Batswanan.
    I guess I have to take your word for it.



    The only irrational thing I'm seeing here is you immedietely simply jumping to the conclussion that this was some kind of country-centric response, seemingly out of your own seemingly sad need to tie yourself staunchly to your country to create some kind of "us vs them" countryism crusade in your mind.
    My country hasn't been mentioned in this whole discussion. If you think I'm cheerleading for the EU as a whole, then you are clearly unaware how few people over here, especially in Spain, are less than enamoured of them. 'My' country, btw won the Prize for Medicine.

    "Us vs. Them" has certainly been a feature of this set-to however. "Us" being those who can recognise a significant achievement in the promotion of peace, and "Them" those who display a Pavlovian hatred for the EU and hence have the knee-jerk "It's a joke" reaction that so many responders to the other thread showed. You did read that thread didn't you? Here are a few 'thoughtful' gems of reasoning from it:

    Giving the EU a prize for their actions is like giving a prize to someone for pouring cups of water on a wildfire that he started. - Rabid Alpaca
    I can't believe these dip-sticks gave themselves the award. What a bunch of Morons! - MMC
    I read this earlier. So the Europeans decided to give themselves a prize.

    How audaciously tacky.

    I LOL'd. - Peter Grimm
    What did he win that award for again? The people who give out this award are really making it into a big JOKE! - ChrisL
    And I'm not even quoting out of context. Those are all four complete posts. Do you contend that they are reasoned, nuanced objections? Or visceral expressions of hatred?

    I did note that you didn't contribute to that thread with either a "cool" or a "this is a joke". Was it of no interest to you?
    People criticize the Peace Prize choice almost every ****ing year.
    Not when it's given to someone they've never heard of. I didn't read any thread calling Mrs Johnson Sirleaf's award a joke. No, it just seems to be when it piques the partisan sensibilities.
    Yet, magically, when it is given to the EU as an actual entity and people...get this...criticize the Peace Prize it must simply be because of the obvious hate that all us evil vile ethnocentric americans have for Europeans. And clearly, when someone suggests that "hey, cool for them" to people who won one of the science nobel prizes...OBVIOUSLY they must be doing so because, you know, AMERICA...**** YEAH.
    Now you're doing a DiAnna. It's not about 'Americans' being anti-EU. It's about certain posters on DP being anti-EU, not all of them American. Take Grant, a Canadian, for example. Please do take him. He's one of the worst haters on DP. I'm not calling people out because they're American, but because of their actions and ethnocentric attitudes.

    Take the inferiority complex and victim mentality elsewhere, it's a foolish argument and rather laughable. You want to speak about irrational action...stop projecting your own geographical hangups and issues on others and judging their words based on your own prejucides and biases transferred onto them, because your arguments are the ones that are illogical.
    This is called 'projection'.
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