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    Re: Americans Alvin Roth and Lloyd Shapley Win Nobel Economics Prize

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    ... Now you're doing a DiAnna. It's not about 'Americans' being anti-EU. It's about certain posters on DP being anti-EU, not all of them American....
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    Re: Americans Alvin Roth and Lloyd Shapley Win Nobel Economics Prize

    Still waiting for Thomas Sowell to win one. It's long overdue.
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    Re: Americans Alvin Roth and Lloyd Shapley Win Nobel Economics Prize

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    WTF??

    Words cannot express the extent of my disappointment in you, and the cheap shot you have taken at me.
    Yes, I think I probably need to fess up and apologise for that. So I do. I should have been a little more sanguine. I was still a bit pissed at you for what I think was a couple of cheap shots you've made at me recently over the Nipplegate issue, the making of the gimp thread and the impugning of my motives for the comments I made about the media storm over Nipplegate. I thought you were just lumping me in with obvious anti-Americanism, when I'm anything but
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    Re: Americans Alvin Roth and Lloyd Shapley Win Nobel Economics Prize

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    You'd have to be willfully blind or stupid not to have noticed the knee-jerk anti-Europeanism all over DP. The insult 'Eurotard' is to be found in virtually every thread of the Europe forum and countless other thread in the news fora. And you think none of that has anything to do with the visceral reactions to the NPP award to the EU?
    I've never heard that term before, so I did a forum search for it. There are only three threads that have ever contained the word "eurotard"...and two of them were instances of you complaining about the term. The other one was a thread from over four years ago.

    "Us vs. Them" has certainly been a feature of this set-to however. "Us" being those who can recognise a significant achievement in the promotion of peace,
    OK, well then let's be fair. What do you think the EU has done to earn the Nobel Peace Prize?
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    Re: Americans Alvin Roth and Lloyd Shapley Win Nobel Economics Prize

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    I've never heard that phrase before, so I did a forum search for it. There are only three threads that have ever contained the word "eurotard"...and two of them were instances of you complaining about the term. The other one was a thread from over four years ago.
    I think he was thinking more of "Eurotrash", which has been used in 367 threads on these boards. Easy two words to mix up.
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    Re: Americans Alvin Roth and Lloyd Shapley Win Nobel Economics Prize

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    I've never heard that term before, so I did a forum search for it. There are only three threads that have ever contained the word "eurotard"...and two of them were instances of you complaining about the term. The other one was a thread from over four years ago.
    The forum search does not produce results from the Basement, which is where the morons feel free to use such terminology.

    OK, well then let's be fair. What do you think the EU has done to earn the Nobel Peace Prize?
    Well, if you check the thread on the subject I think I made the case clear.

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    Re: Americans Alvin Roth and Lloyd Shapley Win Nobel Economics Prize

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    I think he was thinking more of "Eurotrash", which has been used in 367 threads on these boards. Easy two words to mix up.
    I think the two terms are synonymous. Eurotrash is probably safer to use upstairs, Eurotard has been used frequently downstairs. Both seem to me to be knee-jerk insults. Thanks for that anyway, Pete.
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    Re: Americans Alvin Roth and Lloyd Shapley Win Nobel Economics Prize

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    The forum search does not produce results from the Basement, which is where the morons feel free to use such terminology.


    Well, if you check the thread on the subject I think I made the case clear.

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaki...lic-radio.html
    Fair enough. It's hard to argue with the fact that Europe has become much more peaceful since WWII, and that is at least partially due to the EU. Specifically I think it's due to the increased economic/trade integration between its member states. I guess my big problem with it is the timing...it seems odd to award the Nobel Peace Prize to the EU at precisely the moment when tensions are highest among its member states, largely due to the fiscal coercion the EU itself is imposing upon certain member states.

    With that said, the Nobel Peace Prize has often been awarded to odd choices at unusual times. The EU certainly wouldn't have been my pick, at least not this year. But the Nobel Committee could have (and has) done worse.
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    Re: Americans Alvin Roth and Lloyd Shapley Win Nobel Economics Prize

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Fair enough. It's hard to argue with the fact that Europe has become much more peaceful since WWII, and that is at least partially due to the EU. Specifically I think it's due to the increased economic/trade integration between its member states. I guess my big problem with it is the timing...it seems odd to award the Nobel Peace Prize to the EU at precisely the moment when tensions are highest among its member states, largely due to the fiscal coercion the EU itself is imposing upon certain member states.

    With that said, the Nobel Peace Prize has often been awarded to odd choices at unusual times. The EU certainly wouldn't have been my pick, at least not this year. But the Nobel Committee could have (and has) done worse.
    All fair comment. As I said in the thread, I might agree with some suggestions as to more deserving recipients, but I can see a case for the award, nothing more.

    What I was getting exercised about were the kind of comments that I quoted earlier; knee-jerk insults based on hatred of all things European and/or EU-related. Not one of them made a case for why they thought the award was wrong, nor did any of them suggest alternative, more deserving candidates.
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