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    Re: Obama camp tips hand on debate, hints president will attack Romney on Bain

    Its no secret that this was gonna happen, especially following Obama's dismal first showing. I'd bet Romney isn't only ready for this but wants it to happen. He gets to actually rebut the attacks in real time.

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    Re: Obama camp tips hand on debate, hints president will attack Romney on Bain

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    It would be awesome if Obama went after Bain Capital. I would love it if he went after a private sector corporation, that hasn't committed any crimes, proving how much he hates private business.
    I had been thinking a day or so ago, and this seems to be the first real opportunity to express this thought, about the irony and hypocrisy that is involved in Obama and his supporters condemning Romney for his involvement in the venture capital business; given that Obama and the Democratic-dominated Congress spent much of the first two years of Obama's Administration engaging in high-risk venture-capitalist-type investments using the taxpayers' money, to much less favorable effect than Romney achieved using his own money and that of informed, consenting investors.

    If the matter of venture capital investing comes up as a serious debating point between Obama and Romney, this is an area in which Romney ought to be able to completely crush Obama.
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    Re: Obama camp tips hand on debate, hints president will attack Romney on Bain

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    Personally, I think the heaviest punches will come from the foreign policy angle. Romney has to demonstrate his chops with it, against a sitting President of the United States.
    That might be a valid point, if the sitting President had, at any point, demonstrated any competence of his own in this area. So far, President Obama has not demonstrated that he has any better understanding, aptitude, or competence for foreign policy than any average American; so it would really be a stretch to argue, given any solid lack of evidence so far regarding what talents Mr. Romney might have in that area, that he couldn't be expected to do at least as well in it as Obama has done.
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    Re: Obama camp tips hand on debate, hints president will attack Romney on Bain

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    That might be a valid point, if the sitting President had, at any point, demonstrated any competence of his own in this area. So far, President Obama has not demonstrated that he has any better understanding, aptitude, or competence for foreign policy than any average American; so it would really be a stretch to argue, given any solid lack of evidence so far regarding what talents Mr. Romney might have in that area, that he couldn't be expected to do at least as well in it as Obama has done.
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    Re: Obama camp tips hand on debate, hints president will attack Romney on Bain

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    That might be a valid point, if the sitting President had, at any point, demonstrated any competence of his own in this area. So far, President Obama has not demonstrated that he has any better understanding, aptitude, or competence for foreign policy than any average American; so it would really be a stretch to argue, given any solid lack of evidence so far regarding what talents Mr. Romney might have in that area, that he couldn't be expected to do at least as well in it as Obama has done.
    Obama has continued the slow transition out of Iraq and Afghanistan, for the most part (the current debacle being the biggest kink here) was able to claim that NATO's Libya mission did well without American troop deaths, allowed the United States to let events unfold as they may without too many problems (Syria being the exception to the generalities).

    Romney, in contrast, has had numerous problems conveying his foreign policy position without a number of public setbacks. The distinctions between himself and Obama are harder to parse out, with exception to Syria, where the proposition by far seems to include participation in helping the rebels. Iran is greatest weakness for Obama, yet from every discussion I have seen/heard between representatives from both campaigns to various think-tanks, it's much more difficult to see a clear difference between the two. It's become akin to the difficulties Romney faced with regard to Obamacare. The answers can be there, but you do have an enormous problem to overcome in selling what makes your perspective different and furthermore, what you would do instead.
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    Re: Obama camp tips hand on debate, hints president will attack Romney on Bain

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    Obama should come out an laugh, snicker, and generally be disrespectful in the debate.
    his base eats that **** up like candy corn.
    I have already commented in the VP debate thread that Obama will come out and moon Romney during his opening statement and then go over and pee on Romney's shoes while he is trying to respond to an allegation.

    Maybe he could also pick up Kruchev's meme and beat his shoe on the lecturne anytime Romney tries to talk.
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    Re: Obama camp tips hand on debate, hints president will attack Romney on Bain

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    well, you acknowledge that romney was likely expecting this now exposed approach; so, what disadvantage would it then cause the president
    and then, what if this is a feint, causing romney to prepare for one line of attack to only have to respond to another in real time. his crib notes would be no good to him in that scenario
    we can't know the impact until the debate
    I think you may be missing the point. Romney doesn't HAVE to 'study' the situation. Romney knows the TRUTH about Bain and it was a huge success story for him. The only "studying" that has to be done is by the Obama camp in order to maintain the illusion that something was "wrong" with what Romney did at Bain.

    I suspect Romney is not spending one hour 'preparing' his defense of Bain. It is a self-evident truth. I am sure Romney was disappointed that Obama was too chicken to bring it up in the last debate. Romney was ready to slam dunk that lie back down Obama's throat then. Same with the 47percent comment.

    It is instructive to note that Obama did NOT bring those two lies up - he KNEW they were both insipid lies, and that he would have to dodge the line drive response aimed right at his stomach.

    If Obama mentions them this time it will be a sign of desperation. I an SO hoping he does.

    I actually don't know how Obama is going to survive this debacle. His only hope is that the moderator hectors Romney and coddles Obama to an unbelievable extent. There will be bias for sure - that much is a given - but the moderator is going to have to suit up and run physical interference for Obama for him to survive a knockout.
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    Re: Obama camp tips hand on debate, hints president will attack Romney on Bain

    Quote Originally Posted by KWA View Post
    Obama camp tips hand on debate, hints president will attack Romney on Bain | Fox News


    Regardless of how you feel about Bain or Romney, it seems like poor strategy to let this out before the debate. How do you think this will impact Tusday's debate? Personally, I think Romney was already expecting this and now that it is almost certain that it will be brought up, he will be prepared. I'm expecting a close debate more like the VP debate than the first Presidential debate.
    Why are you calling this town hall meeting, taking questions from people we have no idea how they were vetted a debate?

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    Re: Obama camp tips hand on debate, hints president will attack Romney on Bain

    Quote Originally Posted by washunut View Post
    Why are you calling this town hall meeting, taking questions from people we have no idea how they were vetted a debate?
    Probably because it is being called a Town Hall Debate would be my guess. I thought it was supposed to be the foreign policy debate, but apparently not. Look, maybe Obama will attack him on Bain; maybe they leaked that so he would be super-prepared on that as opposed to other things. Who knows. It isn't like they let people stand up at random. They know what the people want to ask and theycall on them to ask the questions the moderators would have asked. It is just smoke and mirrors.

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    Re: Obama camp tips hand on debate, hints president will attack Romney on Bain

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    Probably because it is being called a Town Hall Debate would be my guess. I thought it was supposed to be the foreign policy debate, but apparently not. Look, maybe Obama will attack him on Bain; maybe they leaked that so he would be super-prepared on that as opposed to other things. Who knows. It isn't like they let people stand up at random. They know what the people want to ask and theycall on them to ask the questions the moderators would have asked. It is just smoke and mirrors.
    Don't care what they call it. Answering questions from "random" folks is not a debate. None of these "debates" are the real thing. Pick a topic and let them talk to it as they wish. No need for a moderator, just a timekeeper.

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