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Thread: EU to win 2012 Nobel Peace Prize, says Norway public radio

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    Re: E.U. Wins Nobel Peace Prize.....

    The European Community, founded after WW2 =/= European Union.

    One was a treaty based upon respecting sovereign rights and identity and making good trade with one another to help the recovery of war-torn nations.

    The other is a monstrous coalition of non-elected bureaucrats with maoist tendencies.

    Though one monstrously metamorphosized from the other, it is not the same thing in both essence or mission.

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    Re: E.U. Wins Nobel Peace Prize.....

    The Nobel prize has turned into a joke. Last year Obama, now the EU, next year will be probably Putin.

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    Re: E.U. Wins Nobel Peace Prize.....

    Lot's of bashing of Europe going on

    They are allies people.

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    Re: E.U. Wins Nobel Peace Prize.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    Imma gonna let you Finnish, but I have to cut in here am let y'all know that this is one of the best videos of all-time.
    What does Finland have to do with it, I thought we were talking Swedish and Norwegian cheesy crap bands. Is there a band that is a source of ignominy for Finland as well? (this is rhetorical, I really do not care or want to know, esp. on the heels of Abba and Ah-ha).

    I find it kinda silly the Nobel Committee is giving out the prize to the EU, it waters down a prize that has already suffered massive image problems of late. It should be recognition for individual efforts or achievements IMO - this makes it much more special and remarkable when the prize is won (provided it was actually earned).

    What next? the Nobel prize in medicine going to Japan because everyone lives so much longer there? Maybe give the Prize for Physics to Cern for the Large Hadron collider? How about the prize for literature going to whatever country happens to publish the largest number of novels? Chemistry? make it a coin flip between Dow and Dupont.
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    Re: E.U. Wins Nobel Peace Prize.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    The ECSC didn't win the Nobel Prize.

    If they had, there wouldn't be any outrage. A lot has happened since 1951.
    The ECSC is now defunct so I'm not sure how that would work. The EU for all intents and purposes is its continuation.

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    Re: E.U. Wins Nobel Peace Prize.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Rainman05 View Post
    The European Community, founded after WW2 =/= European Union.

    One was a treaty based upon respecting sovereign rights and identity and making good trade with one another to help the recovery of war-torn nations.

    The other is a monstrous coalition of non-elected bureaucrats with maoist tendencies.

    Though one monstrously metamorphosized from the other, it is not the same thing in both essence or mission.
    Not true at all, the non-elected bureaucracy existed in its pre-1993 format as well.

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    Re: E.U. Wins Nobel Peace Prize.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    We see this farce for what it is.

    The award is an attempt to legitimize the EU during a time of turmoil. If the EU wants true legitimacy, they need to hold referendums in the UK, in Greece, in Sweden, in Portugal, in Spain... and offer a CLEAR CHOICE whether to remain a part of the EU or become independent.

    Or have our democracies evolved so much that the will of the people can no longer be trusted?
    An attempt to legitimise the EU by whom? Every EU member state has the right to hold any referendum they want to decide to stay in, leave or renegotiate their membership. It's up to the national governments, not the EU, to organise and permit any such referenda. Your comments are full of inaccuracies. All EU member states are independent nations with their own governments. They consent to EU membership and the common policies that that entails purely by treaty and they are free to withdraw any time they wish. The EU, as a name, has only existed since 1993, but the organisation has existed since 1957 when Belgium, Netherlands, Luxembourg, France, Italy and West Germany signed the Treaty of Rome to create the European Economic Community.
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    Re: E.U. Wins Nobel Peace Prize.....

    Seems fair enough. If the American voters can win one, then why not the Euros.

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    Re: E.U. Wins Nobel Peace Prize.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Canell View Post
    The Nobel prize has turned into a joke. Last year Obama, now the EU, next year will be probably Putin.
    Obama won the NPP in 2009.
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    Re: E.U. Wins Nobel Peace Prize.....

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Seems fair enough. If the American voters can win one, then why not the Euros.
    Well pretty much with what the Brits say.....seems fair enough to give it to NATO from protecting them. U knows from that Big Old Bad Bear!

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