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Quran Burning Pastor Barred From Entry Into Canada [W:73]

logging and oil I knew. Didnt realise Canada was a big player in the aircraft industry though.

Yes, the economy is quite broad and varied. There is no reason now to be unemployed if you want to work and are willing to go where the work is.
 
Yes, the economy is quite broad and varied. There is no reason now to be unemployed if you want to work and are willing to go where the work is.

is it likey that Quebec will become independent as they are pushing for?
 
is it likey that Quebec will become independent as they are pushing for?

No, I don't think so. I doubt that the separatists would get as much sympathy from other Canadians as they once did either.

I wouldn't mind Quebec separating, if that's what the people wanted, and many would be pleased to see them go. It would still be a beautiful place to visit and my experiences there have always been positive, but there would also be many claims on the territory by Native Canadians as well as others regarding mining rights, fishing rights, and all of that. I'm not too sure it would be to their advantage to separate, as they already have powers denied to other provinces. They often get negative news about other Canadians discriminating against them but it has been my experience that the people of Quebec are genuinely liked wherever they go. In Canada anyway.
 
is it likey that Quebec will become independent as they are pushing for?

No way in hell.

And not nessecarily because Canada won't get along without Quebec, it's that Quebec can't get along without Canada.

In Canada we have a brilliant System called equalization payments from the "Have Provinces" to the "Have Not Provinces".

So for example Alberta where I live, that does extraordinarily well, sends part of it's money to home province of Nova Scotia to help it out because the province struggles a little bit more economically.

Quebec is surprisingly classed as a "have not" province and is the single biggest beneficiary of equalization.

To leave Canada would be to sink their own economy.
 
but you would agree that the US also benefits from this realtionship as open trade with geographical neighbours is the cornorstone to any empire or civilisation

I never said we didn't. However, historically, The United States was prospering long before Canada became a trading partner.
 
No way in hell.

And not nessecarily because Canada won't get along without Quebec, it's that Quebec can't get along without Canada.

In Canada we have a brilliant System called equalization payments from the "Have Provinces" to the "Have Not Provinces".

So for example Alberta where I live, that does extraordinarily well, sends part of it's money to home province of Nova Scotia to help it out because the province struggles a little bit more economically.

Quebec is surprisingly classed as a "have not" province and is the single biggest beneficiary of equalization.

To leave Canada would be to sink their own economy.

The idea is being floated that all that should change, and it would be about time.

Time for Quebec to end equalization addiction: Montreal think-tank | News | National Post
 
Big difference between recognize and associate.I think Winston had too much class to associate with bookburners.
I know I wouldn't want to associate with bookburners or flagburners.
How about you?


Depends on the books and the flags being burned.
 
I never said we didn't. However, historically, The United States was prospering long before Canada became a trading partner.

As far as I can tell Canada couldn't have a better neighbor than the US, and I believe the reverse is true as well. All any of us need do is look around the world to see what other neighbors are doing to each other.
 
The idea is being floated that all that should change, and it would be about time.

Time for Quebec to end equalization addiction: Montreal think-tank | News | National Post

Well you know it's a tough thing because I think Quebec is in the same situation as Ontario in terms of manufacturing being completely killed off by Asia, which was inevitable and so that hugely impacts especially rural Quebec, passed through there not too long ago and it seems very gloomy.

Places like Montreal still do well of course but with so much of the provincial budget being eaten up by Health care it's very difficult for Quebec to give up the Equalization payments.

I mean what province would give it up?

I'm hoping Eastern Canada can discover more oil and gas, love for the Maritimes to take off economically, such a great part of the country thats people deserve a good streak.
 
Canada gets off on being able to deny US citizens entry IMO, but I have heard that those who have a past can still get in--it just takes a little legwork.
 
Depends on the books and the flags being burned.

As a book lover,I find the thought of burning books abhorable.
But we do live in a free country,and it is allowable to burn books (but like Canada,I don't have to allow those type of people who'd burn books entry into my residence) and flags.
So what type of books do you think is acceptable to burn?
 
Well you know it's a tough thing because I think Quebec is in the same situation as Ontario in terms of manufacturing being completely killed off by Asia, which was inevitable and so that hugely impacts especially rural Quebec, passed through there not too long ago and it seems very gloomy.

Places like Montreal still do well of course but with so much of the provincial budget being eaten up by Health care it's very difficult for Quebec to give up the Equalization payments.

Montreal has seen its time passed and largely because of the restrictive and discriminatory language laws. The old joke is that it should have been Bloor Street that was named Rene Levesque Blvd.
I mean what province would give it up?

They can't anymore than people can, once they get used to having things given to them no matter how they manage themselves.

I'm hoping Eastern Canada can discover more oil and gas, love for the Maritimes to take off economically, such a great part of the country thats people deserve a good streak.

The spirit of Newfoundland has been largely sucked dry by the handouts given them over the years. All they have to do is cross the US border to see the difference in lifestyle, or visit Iceland.. I like the people there very much, despite just spending two weeks there, but they lack the confidence of people living in the west, that seemed clear.
 
As far as I can tell Canada couldn't have a better neighbor than the US, and I believe the reverse is true as well. All any of us need do is look around the world to see what other neighbors are doing to each other.

Definitely. Things could be far worse. I'm quite happy with our Canadian neighbors. They can deny entry to our ****heads all they like. I'll just sit here and quietly snicker whenever they do.
 
As a book lover,I find the thought of burning books abhorable.
But we do live in a free country,and it is allowable to burn books (but like Canada,I don't have to allow those type of people who'd burn books entry into my residence) and flags.
So what type of books do you think is acceptable to burn?

I don't propose burning books as much as I support someone's right to do so.
 
Definitely. Things could be far worse. I'm quite happy with our Canadian neighbors. They can deny entry to our ****heads all they like. I'll just sit here and quietly snicker whenever they do.

Denying entry works both ways. Canadians can be turned away from the US border as well, and many have been.
 
I don't propose burning books as much as I support someone's right to do so.
I am not arguing for denying people the right to burn books,
I supports someones right also,I jst wouldn't associate with one.
You did say:

Depends on the books and the flags being burned.
when I asked you if you would associate with book burners.Which implies that while you yourself might not burn books,you have no problem associating with someone who burns certain books
I was just curious as to what books?
 
I am not arguing for denying people the right to burn books,
I supports someones right also,I jst wouldn't associate with one.
You did say:


when I asked you if you would associate with book burners.Which implies that while you yourself might not burn books,you have no problem associating with someone who burns certain books
I was just curious as to what books?

The Red Book, Mein Kampf, Communist Manefesto, etc.
 
I hope the same criteria was applied to these people and they weren't too disappointed that they were unable to defend their positions.

What do you mean the same criteria?
 
If it wasn't for America, Canada would be a third world country.

I would like to know why? We probably would have just traded with Britain instead of you.
 
Canada gets off on being able to deny US citizens entry IMO, but I have heard that those who have a past can still get in--it just takes a little legwork.

From what I understand, anyone with a record is flatout denied entry. I had a guy working for me that had a little sump'm-sump'm on his record and he wasn't able to haul a load of pipe to Alaska.
 
We like free speech we just draw the line at wanting death of x group and saying something to purposely cause harm.

Actually, Canada prosecutes for much, much less than that. Ask Ezra Levant or Mark Steyn.
 
From what I understand, anyone with a record is flatout denied entry. I had a guy working for me that had a little sump'm-sump'm on his record and he wasn't able to haul a load of pipe to Alaska.

I've always heard it was felonies, pending cases/warrants, or misdemeanors involving violence but IDK. I know that Martha Stewart reportedly ran into it one time post prison and there was some process that could take months in which she could be allowed to come in but she would have to go through the process every single time she goes if I recall correctly.
 
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