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    Re: Quran Burning Pastor Barred From Entry Into Canada [W:73]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    By same criteria I really mean whims of the government of the day.

    Communists were once not allowed into the US, a Dutch politician was not allowed into the UK and book burners are not being allowed entry into Canada. My feeling is that anyone should get a visitors permit unless they are criminals or until they break the local laws.
    I don't see this as flavour of the day as quite simply no matter who you are this guy is a looney. He also technically a criminal aswell.

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    Re: Quran Burning Pastor Barred From Entry Into Canada [W:73]

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Therein lies the problem: who gets to define, "reasonable limits"?
    The government on input by their constituents, and approved by the supreme court.

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    Re: Quran Burning Pastor Barred From Entry Into Canada [W:73]

    Quote Originally Posted by Voltaire X View Post
    Respect for Canada: -100 points
    well considering we generally score somewhere around a gazillion points in the respect column around the world, I think we could absorb your 100 penalty assuming of course we even noticed it.
    My Karma ran over your Dogma.

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    Re: Quran Burning Pastor Barred From Entry Into Canada [W:73]

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Actually, Canada prosecutes for much, much less than that. Ask Ezra Levant or Mark Steyn.
    that was the human rights commission. Its not a judicial prosecution and the dude adjudicating it ain't a judge. Its a travesty that is slowly getting fixed as the crazier commissioners are fired and the public gets more indignant. Neither Levant nor Steyn should have had to go thru that crap.

    I happen to think steyn is a racist and levant is seriously anti-muslim, but expressing their opinions isn't remotely a human rights violation against some pansy assed citizen. (it only takes one complaint to get drawn into this absurd "legal" quagmire).
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    Re: Quran Burning Pastor Barred From Entry Into Canada [W:73]

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Blown out of proportion?

    Not a single civil right was ever threatened by the Patriot Act.
    Excuse me? habeus corpus isn't a civil right? unlimited detention isn't a violation of civil rights? spying on american citizens isn't a violation of civil rights?

    What do you think the Patriot act is?
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    Re: Quran Burning Pastor Barred From Entry Into Canada [W:73]

    BTW I happen to know for a fact that a canadian with a criminal record (equivalent of a misdemeanor in the states) is denied entry to the US. further, even if the canadian has been granted a pardon by the Canadian government, the US does not honour said pardon. for a canadian with a criminal record to enter the US it takes a payment of $580(US) and filling out various forms and then waiting for up to 6 months for approval to enter. If you want to enter again at a later date, you go thru the same process, until some guy sitting at a desk decides you can get a waiver and pass across the border freely.

    does it sound like I know what I'm talking about? I spend two grand doing that for a few years, until I got my waiver. all over getting pinched for possession of hashish 40 years ago.
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    Re: Quran Burning Pastor Barred From Entry Into Canada [W:73]

    Quote Originally Posted by 0bserver92 View Post
    I don't see this as flavour of the day as quite simply no matter who you are this guy is a looney. He also technically a criminal aswell.
    He was not allowed to speak in Canada so we don't know whether he's a looney or not.

    He is "technically" a criminal? How so?

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    Re: Quran Burning Pastor Barred From Entry Into Canada [W:73]

    Quote Originally Posted by 0bserver92 View Post
    The government on input by their constituents, and approved by the supreme court.
    The "Constituents" decided that the government should put limits on their free speech? When was that?

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    Re: Quran Burning Pastor Barred From Entry Into Canada [W:73]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jonsa View Post
    that was the human rights commission. Its not a judicial prosecution and the dude adjudicating it ain't a judge. Its a travesty that is slowly getting fixed as the crazier commissioners are fired and the public gets more indignant. Neither Levant nor Steyn should have had to go thru that crap.

    I happen to think steyn is a racist and levant is seriously anti-muslim, but expressing their opinions isn't remotely a human rights violation against some pansy assed citizen. (it only takes one complaint to get drawn into this absurd "legal" quagmire).
    That's the problem. This ridiculous Human Rights Commission decided what was "reasonable limits" and acted accordingly. Luckily for Canadians Mark Steyn (who is no way a racist) and Ezra Levant (so what if he is anti Muslim?) had the wherewithal to fight back. Other Canadians who were attacked by this kangaroo court, some might say with the consent of its "constituents", suffered mightily under the oppression of these bastards.

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    Re: Quran Burning Pastor Barred From Entry Into Canada [W:73]

    Quote Originally Posted by 0bserver92 View Post
    The government on input by their constituents, and approved by the supreme court.
    Soon as you start giving the government too much power, they'll start making laws with less and less input from their constituents.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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