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    Re: Quran Burning Pastor Barred From Entry Into Canada [W:73]

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    Nope, not my business what Canada chooses to do. Iirc Canada has a different speech protection than the U.S. and religious intolerance is covered so it's their right to bar him from entry. It would be a different story had this been the U.S.
    We have the right to deny people entry just like Canada does. Didn't we ban Amy Winehouse from entry? I know Japan did. I think it's funny. If you've lived a life and portrayed yourself as an upstanding citizen then you can wonder aloud at why a country bans your entry, but little can be done about it. It's a country's right after all. But when you portray yourself as some kind of radical thinker, then you can hardly be surprised when a nation doesn't want you around. It's something to consider before spewing hate out in public.

    Things could have been worse for the preacher. He could have been accepted into Canada and then held in containment to be tried for "crimes against humanity." He could've called the American consulate for help who might reply with, "Yeah, we'll get right on that. Excuse me, I need to go for walkies with the poodle." He should be thankful Canada was direct about things and told him to piss off up front.
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    Re: Quran Burning Pastor Barred From Entry Into Canada [W:73]

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Horse****. You dont even know your own freaking history of bigatory, racism, political persecution and worse. You have a whole gulag on Cuba with people being persecuted for their political views and even religious beliefs. You have denied entry to people based on ludacris reasons like "his name is close to that of Bin Laden" excuse, and even put your own politicians on no fly lists "by mistakes".. yea funny that it was always the opposition that got on those lists.. And do you really want to go back more than 10 years of your history? Segregation, lynching, Japanese internment, McCarthy era .. that was just the last century... add to that slavery, Salem witch trials and general religious persecution of Jews and non christians across the US... the US is far far from any angel when it comes to persecution based on political views and religion.
    Every country with a history has a past that is not up to todays standards. I love how America is the one constantly judged.
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    Re: Quran Burning Pastor Barred From Entry Into Canada [W:73]

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    What does Canada's free speech laws say about burning the Koran, the American flag, or the Bible?

    Also, wasn't Ann Coulter banned from Canada as well? Did she "incite violence," too?
    Can burn whatever, as long as it isn't inciting violence.
    If burning an american flag made americans all over the world go ape**** and riot, then you couldn't burn a flag. If burning a Koran makes muslims all over the world go ape**** and riot, the you couldn't burn the koran, because you would be deliberately inciting violence.

    Coulter was not banned from Canada. She had a lecture cancelled by the university could not guarantee security for her because there was a very negative reaction on the part of students to her vitriolic public personna.
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    Re: Quran Burning Pastor Barred From Entry Into Canada [W:73]

    Quote Originally Posted by EagleAye View Post
    We have the right to deny people entry just like Canada does. Didn't we ban Amy Winehouse from entry? I know Japan did. I think it's funny. If you've lived a life and portrayed yourself as an upstanding citizen then you can wonder aloud at why a country bans your entry, but little can be done about it. It's a country's right after all. But when you portray yourself as some kind of radical thinker, then you can hardly be surprised when a nation doesn't want you around. It's something to consider before spewing hate out in public.
    John lennon had to go to court to gain entry into the US. JOHN FREAKING LENNON!
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    Re: Quran Burning Pastor Barred From Entry Into Canada [W:73]

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    But even hatred out to be able to be vocalized. Why is it a crime to hate something? Hate is a part of being human, and if you hate something, you should have the right to vocalize it. The same goes for anyone who hates someone/something else, like, say, atheists who mock the religious.

    Canada's version of free speech is a misnomer, because to them speech only has freedom when it's convenient to them. You only get to say what they want you to say. Speech is not solely about candy and lolipops. There are issues out there that stir up a lot of anger and tension. It is better to allow people to voice their thoughts, emotions, and opinions rather than putting your hand over their mouth, only to enrage them and cut off the hand. It's for this controlling nature of Canada that the U.S.A will always continue to be better than Canada, because America does not and will not put its foot into the mouths of others. As an American, I may not like what others say, but I will fight for them to have that precious right.
    It is not a crime to hate in this country. It is a crime to spread hatred and incite violence with that hatred. I can express an extreme hatred for Stephen Harper all I want. It become a crime when I start public forums, recruit people, hold campaigns, make claims of Stephen Harper's imminent death, then it becomes a crime. We have the Nothwithstanding Clause for this reason. Not to simply force people to be nice to each other.
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    Re: Quran Burning Pastor Barred From Entry Into Canada [W:73]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jonsa View Post
    Can burn whatever, as long as it isn't inciting violence.
    If burning an american flag made americans all over the world go ape**** and riot, then you couldn't burn a flag. If burning a Koran makes muslims all over the world go ape**** and riot, the you couldn't burn the koran, because you would be deliberately inciting violence.

    Coulter was not banned from Canada. She had a lecture cancelled by the university could not guarantee security for her because there was a very negative reaction on the part of students to her vitriolic public personna.
    Quote Originally Posted by Juiposa View Post
    It is not a crime to hate in this country. It is a crime to spread hatred and incite violence with that hatred. I can express an extreme hatred for Stephen Harper all I want. It become a crime when I start public forums, recruit people, hold campaigns, make claims of Stephen Harper's imminent death, then it becomes a crime. We have the Nothwithstanding Clause for this reason. Not to simply force people to be nice to each other.
    Hm.

    I might change my mind on this.

    I support people's right to say they hate something/someone...

    ...but if they're doing something they know is going to cause blood to be spilt, then perhaps that should be stopped.

    A lot of the radical Muslims in other countries are insane. If this pastor guy KNOWS blood is going to be spilt by what he's doing, then he needs to take some of the responsibility for it.

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    Re: Quran Burning Pastor Barred From Entry Into Canada [W:73]

    Quote Originally Posted by AliHajiSheik View Post
    He did say: " this man's civil rights" referring to himself, but perhaps English isn't your native language.
    That's because of his race.

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    Re: Quran Burning Pastor Barred From Entry Into Canada [W:73]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jonsa View Post
    John lennon had to go to court to gain entry into the US. JOHN FREAKING LENNON!
    Okay, you guys have fun jabbing at the US. Don't expect me to dive in. I think Canada has every right to refuse entry to ANYONE. I respect that right. But it doesn't mean I want to join in on the spit on America fest. I love my country, flaws and all. I am plenty aware of them. Just don't expect me to focus on only the negatives and never the positives. I don't do that to other countries. Offer me the same courtesy and don't do it to mine.
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    Re: Quran Burning Pastor Barred From Entry Into Canada [W:73]

    I don't mind if Canada mocks America as well, so long as America can give as good as it gets.

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    Re: Quran Burning Pastor Barred From Entry Into Canada [W:73]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jonsa View Post
    John lennon had to go to court to gain entry into the US. JOHN FREAKING LENNON!


    good one, my man.

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