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    Re: International Day of the Girl

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    Re: International Day of the Girl

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue_State View Post
    My point was that was a joke post.
    How can you be sure? Based on what evidence?

    I've heard that kind of comment from people before. It's not rare unfortunately.

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    Re: International Day of the Girl

    This planet will suck until women EVERYWHERE have 100% equality in ALL areas with men.

    I fear humanity will end before that happens.

    We men are basically control freak, dickheads and will not relinquish that 'power' until it is too late.


    Women?

    If you truly want equality?

    NEVER VOTE FOR ANOTHER MAN FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIVES.


    There are more of you then us.

    You can change things, but you have to do it yourselves.

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    Re: International Day of the Girl

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    This planet will suck until women EVERYWHERE have 100% equality in ALL areas with men.

    I fear humanity will end before that happens.

    We men are basically control freak, dickheads and will not relinquish that 'power' until it is too late.


    Women?

    If you truly want equality?

    NEVER VOTE FOR ANOTHER MAN FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIVES.


    There are more of you then us.

    You can change things, but you have to do it yourselves.
    Another one who has no understanding of the world outside of the US.

    This has absolutely nothing to do with women's lib in the US and women's suffrage and who we vote for. This is not a problem in the US or similar nations that's even being addressed. This is not about equality, abortion and pregnancy pills.

    This is about a long standing practice in patriarchal societies that marries young girls off when they reach the age of puberty.

    It is not about race.
    It is not about religion.

    And I can't change jack **** - all I can do is support the international and 'over there on the other side of the world' cause that's aimed to ending the practice of child-brides. Why on EARTH do you think that who I support as president in our country is somehow going to change what they might do in Hakua ? But even so I doubt there's a single person in our political spectrum who even supports it - seriously . . . you say that bit about voting and equality as if we actually have men in large numbers in the US who support such a heinous practice. Do we? LOL - **** no. It riles against our societies norms through and through. In the US this practice is seen as nothing more than pedophilia plain and simple. . . do we like pedophiles? No we do not.
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    Re: International Day of the Girl

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    Another one who has no understanding of the world outside of the US.

    This has absolutely nothing to do with women's lib in the US and women's suffrage and who we vote for. This is not a problem in the US or similar nations that's even being addressed. This is not about equality, abortion and pregnancy pills.

    This is about a long standing practice in patriarchal societies that marries young girls off when they reach the age of puberty.

    It is not about race.
    It is not about religion.
    Wrong.

    This is about men having the power in those societies to enforce such nonsensical ideas.

    This is about powerful countries like America and Germany and Japan doing nothing to help end this nonsense.

    In fact, in many cases, these countries prop up these archaic countries for political gain....like America does with Saudi Arabia and Pakistan...countries with leaders/prominent politicians that openly encourage this kind if behavior.


    If the rest of the world said 'enough' to these barbaric practices, I believe they would end within a generation.

    But since men still run the world and most really do not care that munch about it...little is done.

    Most men care more about getting laid, their favorite sports team winning and buying a nicer car/house/smartphone then whether women have enough rights (unfortunately, I know I do when push comes to shove).

    Many, many men secretly want women to have less rights and for things to go back to the 'good old days' (I am NOT one of those though).


    How long do you think this would go on if men were the ones being abused/ill treated?

    Not long at all. The male dominated western governments would probably FREAK OUT if it was widespread.

    They would probably call it a terrorist cell's work or something...anything to justify invading these places to put a stop to such practices.

    But because so many if these middle-aged male leaders do not really care all that much about female equality ( despite the PCM crap they spew in public), they will do little to help these poor women.


    Are you seriously suggesting that problem would be worse if the West brought more political pressure to bear in these countries to end these barbaric practices?

    Don't be ridiculous.

    If the West cared as much about cruelty to women as they do about Iran getting nukes, the problem would end FAR faster.
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    Re: International Day of the Girl

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    Wrong.

    This is about men having the power in those societies to enforce such nonsensical ideas.

    This is about powerful countries like America and Germany and Japan doing nothing to help end this nonsense.

    In fact, in many cases, these countries prop up these archaic countries for political gain....like America does with Saudi Arabia and Pakistan.


    If the rest of the world said 'enough' to these barbaric practices, I believe they would end within a generation.

    But since men still run the world and most really do not care that munch about it...little is done.

    Most men care more about getting laid, their favorite sports team winning and buying a nicer car/house/smartphone then whether women have enough rights (unfortunately, I know I do when push comes to shove).

    Many, many men secretly want women to have less rights and for things to go back to the 'old days' (I am NOT one of those though).


    How long do you think this would go on if men were the ones being abused/ill treated?

    Not long at all. The western governments would FREAK OUT if it was widespread.
    As a female I most certainly don't believe how on earth having an equal and opposite reaction is going to change anything - what you're suggesting here is not equality. It's reversal of status where things are just turned 180.

    That's not even the issue though.

    But I agree with what else you wrote in the aforementioned post - except that I don't think this particular post actually disputes mine. I think you and I both raised adequate points - minus your view that women being put in power everywhere and removing the 'evil men' would do anything . . . that's not the goal or the problem here.

    Some other patriarchal societies do not support child-brides . . . and don't treat women like **** just because of heritage and lineage following through the male. In fact - in some other countries who are patriarchal there's a hefty penalty for attempting a relationship with a minor. See - not all are ****ed up. If some managed to provide some type of respect then others can too without becoming a completely different society altogether.

    They don't have to have women trumping the political world - even though some do have women in seats of government, etc. And they don't have to abandon the structure or general values that guide their society or familial structures, either.

    Just quit hooking up Tatua with Hakian when she's 12 and he's 25 and we're good.
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    Re: International Day of the Girl

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    As a female I most certainly don't believe how on earth having an equal and opposite reaction is going to change anything - what you're suggesting here is not equality. It's reversal of status where things are just turned 180.

    That's not even the issue though.

    But I agree with what else you wrote in the aforementioned post - except that I don't think this particular post actually disputes mine. I think you and I both raised adequate points - minus your view that women being put in power everywhere and removing the 'evil men' would do anything . . . that's not the goal or the problem here.

    Some other patriarchal societies do not support child-brides . . . and don't treat women like **** just because of heritage and lineage following through the male. In fact - in some other countries who are patriarchal there's a hefty penalty for attempting a relationship with a minor. See - not all are ****ed up. If some managed to provide some type of respect then others can too without becoming a completely different society altogether.

    They don't have to have women trumping the political world - even though some do have women in seats of government, etc. And they don't have to abandon the structure or general values that guide their society or familial structures, either.

    Just quit hooking up Tatua with Hakian when she's 12 and he's 25 and we're good.

    Ahh...okaaay.

    Anyway...

    I say if women want complete equality, they must be the ones to personally instigate it.

    That means gaining political power.

    You disagree?
    Fine.

    I am a man and I know men better then you ever will.

    And imo, the fastest way for women in the world to gain complete equality is for women to gain political power.

    If you wait for men to do it...it will take far, FAR longer.


    Have a nice day.

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    Re: International Day of the Girl

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    Ahh...okaaay.

    Anyway...

    I say if women want complete equality, they must be the ones to personally instigate it.

    That means gaining political power.

    You disagree?
    Fine.

    I am a man and I know men better then you ever will.

    And imo, the fastest way for women in the world to gain complete equality is for women to gain political power.

    If you wait for men to do it...it will take far, FAR longer.


    Have a nice day.
    Ok - I've said as much as I feel necessary about child-brides . . . I think we both agree it's a bad practice - so that's not even the issue here between us.

    Equality - a general topic:
    How are women suppose to gain power (and then end child-brides) and then bring around equality for other women *later* after power is established if they aren't considered equal in some measure first? Your approach is backwards - FIRST you have to be considered equal in several ways and THEN you can consider becoming more in power. This is just common sense.

    In the US we've been able to vote since 1920 - that was one form of equality which happened only after several other major social changes like giving a woman the right to file a patent for an invention, and the right to own property if she was unwed. So on - so forth. Suffrage came later. But we've yet to have a majority in Congress or other seats and positions of power - and of course that includes the presidency. In fact - it will probably be that was for quite some time because we're not retards - I'm not about to support a female in politics JUST because she's IN politics and we share the same anatomy. I support who I believe can get the job done right and done well and if no women step up who I feel can fulfill that position then I obviously won't be voting for them.

    I don't place my gender above all other things. Between Sarah Palin and Hillary Clinton I'll just pass and rest my case.

    Equality happens in steps - equality bit by bit first from the bottom up . . . positions of power come much later. MUCH LATER. Especially in our society where people must approve of you, support you and believe in you before they want you in office - here you have to be worthy of it. You must have support and respect FIRST before you can even engage the idea.
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    Re: International Day of the Girl

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    It's nothing like "The Day of the Triffids" is it?
    Also, we need to legalize recreational drugs and prostitution.

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    Re: International Day of the Girl

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    Ok - I've said as much as I feel necessary about child-brides . . . I think we both agree it's a bad practice - so that's not even the issue here between us.

    Equality - a general topic:
    How are women suppose to gain power (and then end child-brides) and then bring around equality for other women *later* after power is established if they aren't considered equal in some measure first? Your approach is backwards - FIRST you have to be considered equal in several ways and THEN you can consider becoming more in power. This is just common sense.

    In the US we've been able to vote since 1920 - that was one form of equality which happened only after several other major social changes like giving a woman the right to file a patent for an invention, and the right to own property if she was unwed. So on - so forth. Suffrage came later. But we've yet to have a majority in Congress or other seats and positions of power - and of course that includes the presidency. In fact - it will probably be that was for quite some time because we're not retards - I'm not about to support a female in politics JUST because she's IN politics and we share the same anatomy. I support who I believe can get the job done right and done well and if no women step up who I feel can fulfill that position then I obviously won't be voting for them.

    I don't place my gender above all other things. Between Sarah Palin and Hillary Clinton I'll just pass and rest my case.

    Equality happens in steps - equality bit by bit first from the bottom up . . . positions of power come much later. MUCH LATER. Especially in our society where people must approve of you, support you and believe in you before they want you in office - here you have to be worthy of it. You must have support and respect FIRST before you can even engage the idea.
    Comparing the inept Sarah Palin with the smart, seasoned Bill Clinton is ridiculous.

    Compare him to his wife would be a better comparison.


    And 'equality happens in steps'?

    No offense, but that is ridiculous.

    Equality is an absolute. You do not sit back and ask for an inch. You stand up and demand the mile.

    And you can live in denial all you want, but power comes from the top down.

    Look at the latest economic downturns. All the big banks and some big corporations got into trouble and yet they managed to get the politicians to con the masses into paying their hard earned taxes to bail out billionaires.

    The masses have virtually no power. They just think they do.

    The only power they have s with voting.

    And if you sit back and wait for 90+% of male politicians to care about female equality in private (sure, in public they will/claim they care - they have to) and push for it? You will be sitting a LONG time and many women will suffer needlessly.


    I am not going on and on about this.

    You want female equality at the fastest pace? Then the best way to do achieve that (IMO) is for the more women in the more positions of power.

    You don't agree? Whatever.


    Have a nice day.
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