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    Re: Pakistani Taliban Shoots 14 Year Old Activist

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    I have a similar story from a buddy of mine who was in the 101st. He absolutely hates afghans. Specifically, actually. He also did a tour in Iraq, but had nothing too awfully negative to say about them...but he HATES afghans, for the exact reason you cited...a willful determination to remain ignorant. He hated talking to them, dealing with them, etc. Before he got wounded, he said if he had to do ONE MORE tour there, he was gonna quit.
    But here is the problem with that attitude: that brave young girl who is trying to make the world a better place...she is an Afghan. From what I have read about her activism over the past few days she is easily a better person than the vast majority of Americans, including myself. And there are others like her. We shouldn't discount them.

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    Re: Pakistani Taliban Shoots 14 Year Old Activist

    Quote Originally Posted by Sarcogito View Post
    But here is the problem with that attitude: that brave young girl who is trying to make the world a better place...she is an Afghan. From what I have read about her activism over the past few days she is easily a better person than the vast majority of Americans, including myself. And there are others like her. We shouldn't discount them.
    Good point.

    The conclusion isn't "The Afgans are a backward and horrible people", but the Taliban are made up of backward and horrible people. How many of our 14 year olds would stand up for education? How many of them even try the best they can to learn, let alone risk murder at the hands of thugs to make a stand for educating girls?
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    Re: Pakistani Taliban Shoots 14 Year Old Activist

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    I am not personally willing to invest US tax dollars to fix problems which cannot be fixed by US tax dollars. It's not as if there is mass genocide happening over there, or as if something totally new and unexpected is going on, but that is not the case. We could stay there forever, and waste money and the lives of our own young men, for a bunch of people who don't even like us, and to me, that is insane. We aren't the appointed savior of the world, nor should we be. We can't even afford to take care of ourselves anymore, for God's sake.
    As far as I'm concerned, people with your attitude are enablers of the Taliban and the backwards ass barbaric atrocities they commit. I refuse to accept the position of standing by while brave men and women like Malala Yousufzai languish under oppression and tyranny simply because they lack the means to free themselves from their bonds.

    Don't tell me we have more pressing problems at home. The problems we face as Americans are not comparable to those faced by oppressed groups like women under the Taliban and other fundamentalist societies. I know that's not a popular position for Americans to hear, but it's true.

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    Yes, it's graphic. I don't care. People need to see such photographs. There's a growing epidemic of young Afghan women trapped in a world of unimaginable abuse who attempt suicide by self immolation. Google it. I can't imagine what kind of person says they can't spare any taxpayer money to help individuals facing such a hopeless plight.
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    Re: Pakistani Taliban Shoots 14 Year Old Activist

    Quote Originally Posted by Hairytic View Post
    The thing is, there are people like there here in the US, and we have had a longer time to adjust to the idea of freedom.
    But conservatives in the US are at least educated. . .

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    Re: Pakistani Taliban Shoots 14 Year Old Activist

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post


    I fail to see what this post has to do with anything remotely relevant to this particular thread.

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    Re: Pakistani Taliban Shoots 14 Year Old Activist

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    Oh wow, Todd Akin is sadly the rule for conservatives these days. Speaking of education, they want to do away with the department of education. The GOP is going in such a bad direction.

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    Re: Pakistani Taliban Shoots 14 Year Old Activist

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post


    I fail to see what this post has to do with anything remotely relevant to this particular thread.
    Opposition to education grounded in misogyny seems alive and well in the US, much as it does in Afghanistan.

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    Re: Pakistani Taliban Shoots 14 Year Old Activist

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    Opposition to education grounded in misogyny seems alive and well in the US, much as it does in Afghanistan.
    Indeed, because we in the US have always forbidden female education and routinely lock heretic female students in the classroom and burn them alive. Your posts have nothing whatsoever to do with the topic of this thread.

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    Re: Pakistani Taliban Shoots 14 Year Old Activist

    Quote Originally Posted by the_recruit View Post
    As far as I'm concerned, people with your attitude are enablers of the Taliban and the backwards ass barbaric atrocities they commit. I refuse to accept the position of standing by while brave men and women like Malala Yousufzai languish under oppression and tyranny simply because they lack the means to free themselves from their bonds.

    Don't tell me we have more pressing problems at home. The problems we face as Americans are not comparable to those faced by oppressed groups like women under the Taliban and other fundamentalist societies. I know that's not a popular position for Americans to hear, but it's true.

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    Yes, it's graphic. I don't care. People need to see such photographs. There's a growing epidemic of young Afghan women trapped in a world of unimaginable abuse who attempt suicide by self immolation. Google it. I can't imagine what kind of person says they can't spare any taxpayer money to help individuals facing such a hopeless plight.
    Spare me the drama. This **** has been happening around the world for thousands of years. Yes, it's horrific. Yes, it's ugly. The problem is that we can't fix it, no matter how much we hate it, or how much money we throw at it. One of the reasons for the rise in militant Islamism is because of our holier-than-thous attitude that our way is the only way, and we know better than they, about what is best for them. Prior to our getting intrenched in ME affairs, and trying to wield influence by buying them off, there were more signs of progress in their cultures, than we have seen since the 70's, at which time they appear to have started moving in a reverse direction.
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