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    Re: Pakistani Taliban Shoots 14 Year Old Activist

    Quote Originally Posted by Hairytic View Post
    The bomb in Birmingham blew up when children were starting to come to Sunday school. The timing would indicate that children were being targeted. My point has nothing to do with excusing anyone for these horrible actions. What I am saying is, we can't expect the Middle East to do a better job than we did when our country went through the same changes their country is going through. It took us well over 200 years to have equal rights. Some people are expecting the Arab Spring to improve everyone's lives in the Middle East over night. That is an unrealistic expectation.
    So you're justifying the killing of a little girl and condemning those who would speak out against it.

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    Re: Pakistani Taliban Shoots 14 Year Old Activist

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    Or you could say something even remotely progressive instead of indulging in these specious equivalencies aimed at defending these horrific practices.

    It's your call.
    Nothing I said defended the horrific practice of killing children for speaking up for their own freedom. My response was to those who seem to think that the Arab Spring should have made everythng in the middle east better over night. Change never takes place over night. It will take years of struggle. We call it sufferage movements.

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    Re: Pakistani Taliban Shoots 14 Year Old Activist

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    So you're justifying the killing of a little girl and condemning those who would speak out against it.

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    Defending the Taliban to show she's "progressive".

    What a concept, eh?
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    Re: Pakistani Taliban Shoots 14 Year Old Activist

    Quote Originally Posted by Hairytic View Post
    Nothing I said defended the horrific practice of killing children for speaking up for their own freedom. My response was to those who seem to think that the Arab Spring should have made everythng in the middle east better over night. Change never takes place over night. It will take years of struggle. We call it sufferage movements.
    For starters, Pakistanis are not Arab.

    But if you wish to continue to defend the Taliban through these disgusting comparisons, be my guest. Some might question your motivation for defending the Taliban's intentional shooting of a little girl by comparing it to women voting in this country, though.
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    Re: Pakistani Taliban Shoots 14 Year Old Activist

    Quote Originally Posted by Hairytic View Post
    The interesting thing about history is, it shows how people go through the process of change. We didn't transition to change so well either. Women were not even allowed to vote until 1920, and we had to fight for that right. It isn't exactly fair to expect people to do better than we did when government and culture starts to go through a major change.
    You can't be honestly comparing not allowing women the vote to killing children, can you?

    You can't be honestly comparing a fringe group here in the United States to a nation wide philosophy and culture over there, can you?
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    Re: Pakistani Taliban Shoots 14 Year Old Activist

    Quote Originally Posted by Hairytic View Post
    Nothing I said defended the horrific practice of killing children for speaking up for their own freedom. My response was to those who seem to think that the Arab Spring should have made everythng in the middle east better over night. Change never takes place over night. It will take years of struggle. We call it sufferage movements.
    Look, no offense... it is simply a stupid analogy that you are trying to make. Seriously.
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    Re: Pakistani Taliban Shoots 14 Year Old Activist

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    So you're justifying the killing of a little girl and condemning those who would speak out against it.

    Got it.
    Either you can't read very well or you are twisting the point I am trying to make. I don't agree with what the Taliban did. I simply said that change does not happen over night. We shouldn't claim that everyone in the middle east is against change. I am just pointing out the reality of the situation. There will be many horrible things done by the taliban to stop change. The same thing happened in our country, people fighting to stop others from having their equal rights.

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    Re: Pakistani Taliban Shoots 14 Year Old Activist

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    For starters, Pakistanis are not Arab.

    But if you wish to continue to defend the Taliban through these disgusting comparisons, be my guest. Some might question your motivation for defending the Taliban's intentional shooting of a little girl by comparing it to women voting in this country, though.
    I never defended the Taliban. My response was to someone talking about how Afghanies reacted to the changes taking place in their country. The reality of the situation is that several groups throughout the middle east are fighting for their freedom and trying to bring about change. This change will not happen over night. I think the Taliban are horrible people who should be hung up by their toe nails and be made to suffer for what they have done.

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    Re: Pakistani Taliban Shoots 14 Year Old Activist

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    You can't be honestly comparing not allowing women the vote to killing children, can you?

    You can't be honestly comparing a fringe group here in the United States to a nation wide philosophy and culture over there, can you?
    I made the comparison to make a point that change takes place through sufferage movements. THe girl who got shot is a hero because he dared to stand up for her own freedom. There will be many fallen heros during this sufferage movement in Pakistan, and that is a sad reality. I hate what the Taliban is doing.

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    Re: Pakistani Taliban Shoots 14 Year Old Activist

    Quote Originally Posted by Hairytic View Post
    Nothing I said defended the horrific practice of killing children for speaking up for their own freedom. My response was to those who seem to think that the Arab Spring should have made everythng in the middle east better over night. Change never takes place over night. It will take years of struggle. We call it sufferage movements.
    You're already several steps behind, in seeing what the actual inherrent problems are in the ME. You try to equate Muslim terrorists with Judeo-Christian culture, as it was here, 100-200 years ago. Judeo-Christian culture spread along with western democracy, thus already had a basis on which to make progress with regard to human rights, just as we have seen happen concurrently, in other western democratic societies. The problem in some of the ME region cultures, is that they can't separate their religion from their politics. This is a deeply ingrained problem which will not be resolved for quite some time to come, and it may be that it won't be resolved absent outside force.
    It remains to be seen what the Arab Spring will result in long term. I personally don't expect much besides a reversion to what is familiar and secure to them.

    Your comparison is invalid.
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