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    Re: Pakistani Taliban Shoots 14 Year Old Activist

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Really?

    Does that include the suicide bombers?
    Yes. Amazing how a homespun IED strapped to a body doesn't have the killing power of 2000 lb. JDAM dropped due to an "intelligence failure."

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    Re: Pakistani Taliban Shoots 14 Year Old Activist

    This also looks to be a step in the right direction. Now they just have to get the shooters as well.

    "Pakistani police have arrested a number of suspects in the case of a 14-year-old girl shot and wounded by the Taliban for promoting education for girls and criticizing the fundamentalist Islamic movement, officials said Friday. The Taliban spokesman, Sirajuddin Ahmad, said her family had been warned three times the most recent warning coming last week before the decision was made to execute her. Ahmad said the local Taliban leader Maulana Fazlullah and his deputies selected three attackers, including two trained sharpshooters, who carefully studied the girl's route home from school. All this for a 14 year old student...


    Pakistani police make arrests in case of Taliban shooting of 14-year-old education activist | Fox News

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    Re: Pakistani Taliban Shoots 14 Year Old Activist

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    That is not because of an incompetent military, but because of incompetent American leadership (both parties), who thinks we can fight a war, which is not really a war, but is more appropriate for covert ops. Our mililtary is excellent if given the job of executing a real war, but we seem have confused the job of the military with that of the Red Cross with arms.
    The CINC and SECDEF are part of the military.

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    Re: Pakistani Taliban Shoots 14 Year Old Activist

    Update: The taliban is threatening to kill the girl if she survives.

    "KARACHI, Pakistan — The Taliban is threatening to kill a 14-year-old Pakistani girl whom it shot for helping other girls go to school — if she survives a wounding that has made her a hero to many Pakistanis."
    Taliban unrepentant after attack on Pakistani teen, vow to kill her - The Washington Post

    You have to love the apologists who support these thugs.

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    Re: Pakistani Taliban Shoots 14 Year Old Activist

    Quote Originally Posted by Patrickt View Post
    Update: The taliban is threatening to kill the girl if she survives.

    "KARACHI, Pakistan The Taliban is threatening to kill a 14-year-old Pakistani girl whom it shot for helping other girls go to school if she survives a wounding that has made her a hero to many Pakistanis."
    Taliban unrepentant after attack on Pakistani teen, vow to kill her - The Washington Post

    You have to love the apologists who support these thugs.
    Either you support Obama or you support the Taliban. What's it gonna be?

    False dichotomies are so much fun

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    Re: Pakistani Taliban Shoots 14 Year Old Activist

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    Spare me the drama. This **** has been happening around the world for thousands of years. Yes, it's horrific. Yes, it's ugly. The problem is that we can't fix it, no matter how much we hate it, or how much money we throw at it.
    It doesn't matter how long it's been going on. It was wrong then and it's wrong now. Look, I get it. You're perfectly content to let it continue. But, luckily for you, not everybody shares your apologist and defeatist attitude. Luckily, there are strong courageous men and women (today and throughout history) such as Malala who are not content to sit by and passively let such atrocities continue.

    As I've already said, as far as I'm concerned your attitude is part of the problem. It's because of your kind of tolerance that such acts have been able persist throughout history in the first place.


    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    One of the reasons for the rise in militant Islamism is because of our holier-than-thous attitude that our way is the only way, and we know better than they, about what is best for them.
    Multiculturalist bull****. Not all cultures are equal. Some cultures are better than others. So, yes I believe western culture IS better than backwards ass fundamentalism. Freedom of speech IS better. Women's rights ARE better.

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    Prior to our getting intrenched in ME affairs, and trying to wield influence by buying them off, there were more signs of progress in their cultures, than we have seen since the 70's, at which time they appear to have started moving in a reverse direction.
    No. Afghanistan went to **** as a result of the socialist coup in 78 and the subsequent invasion of the Soviet Union. Then, after the Soviet Union withdrew and collapsed, the United States lost interest and turned its back on Afghanistan in the early 90s. It was during this lull in Western influence that the Taliban were able to muscle into power along with the terrible fundamentalism to which you refer.

    So, you're wrong. It was precisely because we left Afghanistan that things got really bad for the Afghans, not the other way around.

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    Re: Pakistani Taliban Shoots 14 Year Old Activist

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Excellent. The Taliban have gone too far this time, and incurred the wrath of at lest the Pakistanis. Maybe the Afgans will follow suit and start to root this evil from their society as well.

    But, throwing acid in the faces of little girls who dared to go to school didn't seem to be enough, nor was burning donated children's coats in the face of an Afgan winter. Maybe the third time will be the charm.
    As I've already pointed out, throwing out an oppressive government is not a simple matter of sufficient willpower of the people. There are many more variables involved than that.

    The Taliban are not very popular among Afghans actually. It's not like they were elected. They gained control through military force in the Afghan civil war and military force is how they maintained power.

    The fact that the Taliban are ultimately just a Pakistan proxy doesn't make it any easier either.

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    Re: Pakistani Taliban Shoots 14 Year Old Activist

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    The problem is that taxpayer money is being spent to fund an incompetent military--the US military. After more than 10 years of war, the Taliban are still operating, even though the Taliban have only 1/1000000th the budget of the Pentagon.

    We steamrolled the Taliban in record time, i'm talking Usain Bolt time. Their sphere of control is a tiny fraction of what it was prior to our invasion. The Taliban only persist because the ISI is playing a double game. The Taliban are and have always been a Pakistan proxy. They retreat across the Durrand line where we are unable to engage with ground troops (well. let me correct that - where we RARELY engage with ground troops ). Surely, you're not suggesting we invade Pakistan?


    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    Furthermore, the troops in Afghanistan are not there to help teenage girls get an education, even if that happens more as a side-effect of their presence and even if they're told that's what their purpose is.

    The primary objective of uncle sammy in Afghanistan is to control enough of the country to allow US firms to mine Afghanistan for natural resources.
    You've been watching Avatar too much.

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    I would prefer my money be spent on a competent military force whose primary purpose is destroying extremist misogynistic factions and can get the job done efficiently .
    You know, you might actually be able to ruffle some feathers with these military insults if you didn't make it look like you're trying so hard.

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    Re: Pakistani Taliban Shoots 14 Year Old Activist

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    You do realize the kill ratio is

    US soldiers killed:Taliban fighters killed

    not

    US soldiers killed:Taliban fighters killed + collateral damage (innocent civilians) killed by US forces

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    Redo your figures and see what you come up with
    You clearly don't know what you're talking about.

    About 75,000 Taliban were killed in our invasion. About 3000 US soldiers have been killed.

    About 20,000 Afghan civilians have been killed. About 75-80% percent of those were killed by anti-government forces.

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    Re: Pakistani Taliban Shoots 14 Year Old Activist

    Quote Originally Posted by the_recruit View Post

    We steamrolled the Taliban in record time,
    If the US military steamrolled the Taliban, then why are they still operating and still able to carry out attacks.

    The term "steamrolling" means destroying someone or something for good

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