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    Re: Police Union Says War-Like Detroit Is Unsafe For Visitors

    Once in a while, you see articles similar to the Original Post. Upon close review of those articles and virtually all of the comments following, it's always fascinating to see that NEVER do you see the word "black" or the more PC word "African American." You never see the word "Mexican." Why not?

    Instead, as Americans, we have been trained to nebulously define causes by attaching blame to such undefinable entities as "gangs" or some other such smokelike entity that no cause is ever identified and as a result NO SOLUTION IS EVER FOUND OR APPLIED. As JoeChili accurately points out, much of the nation is gone now, in decline to the extent that you will die if you venture into certain areas. Your wife and daughter will be tortured and raped before being killed. We have even been trained (forced) to no longer feel any outrage or despair at such an incredible state of affairs. We are forbidden to even notice, let alone talk about the problem. We simply accept this and plan our travels accordingly.

    If you notice or comment, at the very least, you will be called "Racist" "Bigoted" or whatever, we all know the words used to silence the Americans who built this country. At worst, you are publicly humiliated and lose your job and acquaintances. During this election season, the local liberal newspaper in my area of 250,000 people will not let you comment on articles unless your comment is linked to Facebook and your actual name is printed along with your comment. All critical comments have therefore disappeared.

    The bottom line is that these social problems are never accurately defined and resultantly never solved. They just get worse.

    Unless Americans are allowed to openly discuss race, intelligence, genetics, racial characteristics and their sociological effects on civilized society, none of these problems will ever be solved. They will never even be defined. Add into the mix, the rampant, uncontrolled 3rd world immigration into the United States and we will simply return to a nation of warring tribes. We are probably 60% down that road right now.
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    Re: Police Union Says War-Like Detroit Is Unsafe For Visitors

    Quote Originally Posted by Ray410 View Post
    Unless Americans are allowed to openly discuss race, intelligence, genetics, racial characteristics and their sociological effects on civilized society, none of these problems will ever be solved. They will never even be defined. Add into the mix, the rampant, uncontrolled 3rd world immigration into the United States and we will simply return to a nation of warring tribes. We are probably 60% down that road right now.
    I agree with you. One cannot even discuss race, etc., etc., on this forum without it leading to charges of racism. Makes me sick.
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    Re: Police Union Says War-Like Detroit Is Unsafe For Visitors

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    I chose AK47's because most of the good citizens of Detroit have been denied the right to arms by their oppressive government. Being unfamiliar with the operation and maintenance of more sophisticated weapons, AK47's would serve them well in culling the herd of the Idiots among them.
    Not sure where you are getting that people in Detroit are denied the right to arms. I can't find where their laws differ from those in the rest of Michigan where you don't even need a carry permit as long as the gun is registered and not concealed. As for AKs, they vary greatly in quality depending on where they are manufactured. A well made model is probably better suited for urban warfare than the American M-4 as indicated by the numerous images of American troops in Iraq utilizing them. Personally, I'll stick with the real cream of the crop, the German H+Ks.

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    Re: Police Union Says War-Like Detroit Is Unsafe For Visitors

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Yup, having American police and military forces treat American Citizens the same way we treat foreign terrorists, en-mass and on our own soil, is a marvelous idea. But why stop there? The government won't, once that Pandora's box is open...

    (/irony)

    On September 11, 2,996 people died on US soil due to a terrorist attacks. As a result we created new departments of government, expanded our intelligence capability, expanded government powers to monitor and detain even US citizens. We have spent over an additional trillion dollars to combat potential threats to the US and US interests not to mention put our troops into harms way in several countries. Plus much more...


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    From 2006-2010 alone, 5042 people died as a result of gang violence on US soil. What have we done? Not nearly enough.


    I just think our priorities are a little skewed is all. We are willing to go to great effort and expense all over the world but it just seems we lack conviction to make things right here at home. When I hear about authorities warning people that it is unsafe to go into certain neighborhoods I think 3rd world countries, not the USA. I think we need to focus inward for a time and clean up our own country instead of policing the world.

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    Re: Police Union Says War-Like Detroit Is Unsafe For Visitors

    obama's self admittedly ignorant ag's famous "nation of cowards" speech, feb, 2009:

    Eric Holder, the nation's first black attorney general, said Wednesday the United States was "a nation of cowards" on matters of race, with most Americans avoiding candid discussions of racial issues.

    In a speech to Justice Department employees marking Black History Month, Holder said the workplace is largely integrated but Americans still self-segregate on the weekends and in their private lives.

    "Though this nation has proudly thought of itself as an ethnic melting pot, in things racial we have always been and I believe continue to be, in too many ways, essentially a nation of cowards," Holder said.

    Race issues continue to be a topic of political discussion, but "we, as average Americans, simply do not talk enough with each other about race."

    Holder cited that speech by Obama as part of the motivation for his words Wednesday, saying Americans need to overcome an ingrained inhibition against talking about race.

    "If we're going to ever make progress, we're going to have to have the guts, we have to have the determination, to be honest with each other. It also means we have to be able to accept criticism where that is justified," Holder told reporters after the speech.

    Race, Holder said, "is an issue we have never been at ease with and, given our nation's history, this is in some ways understandable... If we are to make progress in this area, we must feel comfortable enough with one another and tolerant enough of each other to have frank conversations about the racial matters that continue to divide us."

    Even when people mix at the workplace or afterwork social events, Holder argued, many Americans in their free time are still segregated inside what he called "race-protected cocoons."

    "Saturdays and Sundays, America in the year 2009 does not in some ways differ significantly from the country that existed almost 50 years ago. This is truly sad," said Holder.
    Holder Calls U.S. 'Nation of Cowards' on Race Matters | Fox News

    it doesn't look like any frank discussion of racial miseries is quite the conversation the ignorant ag anticipated

    as for getting together on weekends---great

    except the detroit police dept just warned us all to stay away

    after addressing his courageous remarks about cowardice to the doj in obama's first month in office, the ignorant ag flew immediately off to gitmo

    he was gonna close it

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    as serious as anything so far brought up:

    aug 23: Mexican drug cartels fight turf battles in Chicago - CBS News

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    Re: Police Union Says War-Like Detroit Is Unsafe For Visitors

    Quote Originally Posted by Baralis View Post
    On September 11, 2,996 people died on US soil due to a terrorist attacks. As a result we created new departments of government, expanded our intelligence capability, expanded government powers to monitor and detain even US citizens. We have spent over an additional trillion dollars to combat potential threats to the US and US interests not to mention put our troops into harms way in several countries. Plus much more...


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    From 2006-2010 alone, 5042 people died as a result of gang violence on US soil. What have we done? Not nearly enough.


    I just think our priorities are a little skewed is all. We are willing to go to great effort and expense all over the world but it just seems we lack conviction to make things right here at home. When I hear about authorities warning people that it is unsafe to go into certain neighborhoods I think 3rd world countries, not the USA. I think we need to focus inward for a time and clean up our own country instead of policing the world.

    This is why we need to support the right of Citizens to kill gangbangers and thugs in large numbers.

    It is better than the citizenry do it; otherwise we give more power to the government.


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    Re: Police Union Says War-Like Detroit Is Unsafe For Visitors

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Yup, having American police and military forces treat American Citizens the same way we treat foreign terrorists, en-mass and on our own soil, is a marvelous idea. But why stop there? The government won't, once that Pandora's box is open...

    (/irony)
    He didn't say treat American citizens the same way as foreign terrorists.

    He said commit the same resources we commit towards taking back our neighborhoods.

    Unfortunately we'll never be able to take back these neighborhoods until minorities in this country are willing to take responsibility for the situations they find themselves in and the first step is for liberals to start acknowledging that they are responsible for an awful lot of their problems.
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    Re: Police Union Says War-Like Detroit Is Unsafe For Visitors

    I know it is a horrible thing to speak of, but is it possible that the reason people care less about gangs is because they largely are just killing each other in drug/turf wars?

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    Re: Police Union Says War-Like Detroit Is Unsafe For Visitors

    If only solving Detroit's problems was as simple as the plot of a 70's grind-house film. Destroying the rule of law and militarizing the city are not going to bring life back to the city. It needs economic growth. The city has been run into the ground by corruption, debt, overly restrictive land-use laws and business regulations, and a cozy relationship with the automakers that left the city with nowhere to go after they left. If Detroit wants to pay its cops enough to keep them there, pay for services, and return business to the city, politics need to change. Business's need to have an easier time opening. The city needs to attract these people to do business in Detroit. The city's politicians will not accomplish this by tax-boondoggles such as convention centers and sports stadiums. It needs to be easier to do business in Detroit, and the city's leaders have been slow to act, as they have been in many other large cities. Land-use needs to become less regulated so that developers can clear the vast, abandoned tracts of the Wayne County. Detroit's recovery cannot happen overnight, but cheap land has already attracted some investors, entrepreneurs, and a growing artist community.
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