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    Re: Maine GOP attack Dem for playing World of Warcraft!

    Quote Originally Posted by Aderleth View Post
    Possibly because it's not what you said in the last post. You said "no social interaction with real people" which there actually is quite a lot of in any given MMO. Is it the same as sitting around a dining room table with a bunch of people? Of course not. But neither is talking on the telephone, and no one in their right mind would argue that that's not a social interaction with a real person.
    In fact, in regards to MMO, there's are just as many rules for social interaction as in real life.
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    Re: Maine GOP attack Dem for playing World of Warcraft!

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    This is what the Democrat candidate said, not just thought.

    "I love poisoning and stabbing," "I can kill stuff without going to jail" and "I like to stab things and I'm originally from New Jersey, what's your (expletive) point?"

    Would you be equally content if Mitt Romney had made those statements?

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    I can't speak to the culture that plays wow as I do not but something tells me that a certain glorification of (fictional) violence is part of the culture. And that probably isn't a bad thing, much like in eve paranoia is part of the culture due to our free market with no rules, scams are legal, but it doesn't make me go out and defraud people.

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    Re: Maine GOP attack Dem for playing World of Warcraft!

    If this is actually a point of attack by the GOP candidate, then I would say they've given up on winning this seat. Desperation doesn't normally play well with the electorate.
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    Re: Maine GOP attack Dem for playing World of Warcraft!

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    This is what the Democrat candidate said, not just thought.

    "I love poisoning and stabbing," "I can kill stuff without going to jail" and "I like to stab things and I'm originally from New Jersey, what's your (expletive) point?"

    Would you be equally content if Mitt Romney had made those statements?

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    That's what she said in the context of a game. If you can show she demonstrated similar thoughts in real life, you might be on to something. Until then, not so much.
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    Re: Maine GOP attack Dem for playing World of Warcraft!

    Quote Originally Posted by Tettsuo View Post
    In fact, in regards to MMO, there's are just as many rules for social interaction as in real life.
    Except in real life, you don't come back to life...

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    Re: Maine GOP attack Dem for playing World of Warcraft!

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    Would we be better off if they went back to playing bridge, dominoes, Risk, or w/e else people played before these games came about?
    What difference does it make that the game involves a computer/console?
    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Because there is live human interaction with those games, there is a social aspect with real people. That's the real difference it seems.
    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    So in WoW or w/e you don't have live, social interaction with other humans?
    I am not sure that's accurate.
    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Or, you may want to re read the post and what I was responding to.
    If you not trying to make the distinction between computer/console games vs board games by pointing out that one of the categories of games [maybe the board games maybe the computer games not clear from the text] has something which the other does not, namely "live human interaction" and 'a social aspect with real people." Then I have missed the point.
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Maine GOP attack Dem for playing World of Warcraft!

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    Let's be honest. The majority of the time, even the most dedicated games teach relatively minor amounts of critical thinking. Sure, some puzzle solving here or there, or whatever, but these things are usually isolated to each game's systems of reality. I'll grant you this, however, a great many novels are trash. I even have some quarrels with the virtue of reading novels as well.
    That's not really true, necessarily. Especially when you start screwing around with intense strategy games like the Civilization series. Those games have a learning curve like the Matterhorn, and even playing on the lower difficulty settings requires a great deal of problem solving and strategic thinking. Imagine chess with ten different oponents at the same time, and you're coming close to the ballpark. Obviously that's not true for something like WoW, but all games are not alike.

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    Re: Maine GOP attack Dem for playing World of Warcraft!

    Quote Originally Posted by Moon View Post
    That's what she said in the context of a game. If you can show she demonstrated similar thoughts in real life, you might be on to something. Until then, not so much.
    She expressed the thoughts.

    I've never expressed them and most people I know haven't expressed them either..Perhaps we just travel in different circles.

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    Re: Maine GOP attack Dem for playing World of Warcraft!

    Quote Originally Posted by Aderleth View Post
    It's not at all accurate. It's called a multiplayer game for a reason. People interact with each other all the time. The only difference is that it's not in person like an old-school boardgame. (I don't play, btw, but my brother used to)
    It's the difference between phone sex and genuine sex with another human being.

    Sure there's human interaction in either case but there is also quite a difference between the two..

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