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    Re: Obama: 'We Don't Believe Anybody Is Entitled to Success in This Country' [W:108]

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I'm not trying to convince you of anything. I offered my opinion; you ask for substance supporting my opinion and I gave it to you.

    You've heard what you've heard and I've heard what I've heared.
    I agree and neither one of these jamokes has been very convincing.

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    Re: Obama: 'We Don't Believe Anybody Is Entitled to Success in This Country' [W:108]

    Quote Originally Posted by Connery View Post
    I agree and neither one of these jamokes has been very convincing.
    I'm convinced that Obama will do more harm to the country than Romney will.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Obama: 'We Don't Believe Anybody Is Entitled to Success in This Country' [W:108]

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I'm convinced that Obama will do more harm to the country than Romney will.
    Perhaps I see the first responders that he let go when his "tightened their belt of Massachusetts. It was mayhem and confusion.. .

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    Re: Obama: 'We Don't Believe Anybody Is Entitled to Success in This Country' [W:108]

    Quote Originally Posted by Connery View Post
    Perhaps I see the first responders that he let go when his "tightened their belt of Massachusetts. It was mayhem and confusion.. .
    I see all the people in the oil and gas industry that were harmed by the drilling ban. I'm just glad they didn't put that stupid lizard on the endangered species list.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Obama: 'We Don't Believe Anybody Is Entitled to Success in This Country' [W:108]

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Fair enough, and FWIW your system isn't bad in my book. However, what's your actual paid participation rate? What percentage of your population isn't paying taxes that support that system? You see, when the system grows to a point where only a small percentage of the whole actually pay enough into it for it to operate effectively, things start to break down. Costs remain high.

    That should answer your post below as well. The insured don't just pay for themselves, but the uninsured as well.
    Each provincial plan is partially funded thru federal transfer payments, general provincial revenues, employer's payroll healthcare tax (small business exempt), and for everyone earning over $20K a regressive tax from $60/yr to top rate on 200K of $900.

    It should be noted that dental, all elective cosmetic/bariatric surgery, chiropracters, private room care, and prescription drugs are not covered. there are private plans that cover these areas often as part of a group coverage bennie from employers. If a patient is unable to pay for drugs, there's a special program for them.

    *small biz defined as under 100 employees, under $5 million.

    So sources of funds are diverse. There is an awareness that things will need to be tweaked, but it is generally not anticipated that anything radical will be required.
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    Re: Obama: 'We Don't Believe Anybody Is Entitled to Success in This Country' [W:108]

    I said, "BJ Clinton was impeached for lying under oath.
    He had the good fortune of Republicans in the legislature who reigned him in."
    To which you replied,

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    What,is it with all the paid advertsising for the GOP these days? You don't even try to use your brain, you just regurgitate....
    Which fact were you objecting to?
    1) BJ Clinton was impeached for lying under oath
    [indent]Bill Clinton, 42nd President of the United States, was impeached by the House of Representatives on two charges, one of perjury and one of obstruction of justice, on December 19, 1998. [/quote]
    Impeachment of Bill Clinton - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    2) He, Clinton, had the good fortune of Republicans in the legislature who reigned him in
    Bill Clinton was the 42nd president of the united states. This period was 1993 through to 2001. Apart from 1993 to 1995 which was controlled by the democrats, the republicans controlled the house and senate till 2001.
    What political party controlled the house and senate during the Clinton years

    Why do you object to simple facts?

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    Re: Obama: 'We Don't Believe Anybody Is Entitled to Success in This Country' [W:108]

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    You were the one with the absolutist statement. I merely asked a question and you responded with a personal attack simply because you had not fully thought through your first post. And you continue with personal attacks in place of recognizing that statements such as you made in this thread are fine examples of how one's words may be misused by political opponents - something we see with Republican attacks on the President's words.
    We both know what you did. And we both know why you did it. You cannot escape yourself. I, on the other hand, can escape people with attitudes such as yours whenever I choose. You have chosen socialism. I have chosen freedom and liberty.

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    Re: Obama: 'We Don't Believe Anybody Is Entitled to Success in This Country' [W:108]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jonsa View Post
    Not so. By your measure we here in Canada are extreme socialists. But, we manage to control the size of our government, provide a strong social safety net, and rank up near the top of the list in quality of life, quality of opportunity, best placed to do business, etc. And we have single payer healthcare AND strictly enforced financial regulations that helped us avoid the worst of your financial calamities. Americans absolutely gag at the total tax burden on canadians (tax freedom day is mid june)but to the majority of us, it simply is what it is.
    Your tale reminds me of the story of the man who, while viewing the skyline, from the top of the Empire State building, was blown over the side and began his plummet to the ground. As he was passing the 50th floor someone yelled out to him, "How are you doing?" The man replied, "So far, so good."

    Eventually you will hit the ground because eventually the makers will grow weary of supporting their Taker extended family. Socialists always run out of other people's money.

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    Re: Obama: 'We Don't Believe Anybody Is Entitled to Success in This Country' [W:108]

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    You'd have to prove that money laundering did, in fact, occur based on bundled campaign contributions to Obama's presidential campaign. Without proof, all you have is speculation and wild accusations. I'd suggest you start another thread on the matter, present your evidence or at the very least plead your case there. Otherwise, let's not try to deflect and hijack the thread.
    I see. So what part of this story do you object to? The one term Marxist received money in the form of campaign contributions from bundlers. He won the election. He caused the government to give billions of dollars to his bundlers (have you heard of Solyndra, as an example?). His bundlers enriched themselves and gave more campaign contributions to the one term Marxist and his fellow travelers in the Democratic party. Solyndra, and other bundler green-exercises-in fairytale making went bankrupt.

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    Re: Obama: 'We Don't Believe Anybody Is Entitled to Success in This Country' [W:108]

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    I said, "BJ Clinton was impeached for lying under oath.
    He had the good fortune of Republicans in the legislature who reigned him in."
    To which you replied,



    Which fact were you objecting to?
    1) BJ Clinton was impeached for lying under oath
    [indent]Bill Clinton, 42nd President of the United States, was impeached by the House of Representatives on two charges, one of perjury and one of obstruction of justice, on December 19, 1998.
    Impeachment of Bill Clinton - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    2) He, Clinton, had the good fortune of Republicans in the legislature who reigned him in
    Bill Clinton was the 42nd president of the united states. This period was 1993 through to 2001. Apart from 1993 to 1995 which was controlled by the democrats, the republicans controlled the house and senate till 2001.
    What political party controlled the house and senate during the Clinton years

    Why do you object to simple facts?[/QUOTE]

    It wasn't all Republicans. If it was we'd be living in utopia after 6 years of all Republicans. You're too partisan, and lack the simplest critical reasoning skills.


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    This issue has been plowed more times than Paris Hilton.
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    Too bad we have to observe human rights.

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